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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Honestly with the way the internet exists now, we might feasibly be able to do something closer to direct democracy.

But good luck convincing the people in charge to lay down their power.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps, though I’d be very concerned for mob mentality. Social media is famously reactive.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No doubt. I think an easy way to counter that is to put a “deliberation” time on legislation. I’m spitballing but maybe require two votes 3 months apart, and they must both agree (otherwise there’s a third tiebreaker vote another 3 months later)? That would help kill off the flash fire effect that a viral meme can create and focus more on fixing problems that occur over a longer period of time.

I mean I’m no political scientist so I’d love to hear more about what methods are proven for direct democracy.

[–] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Was it... the Persians? Maybe? Anyway, they had to make two choices on any decision, once when drunk and again sober a few days later. If rhe choice was the same both times it was deemed a good idea.

I have zero idea if this is fact, but it sounds similar to your idea.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ooh never heard that but it kinda makes sense

[–] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I really hope it's not some fever dream, or total bullshit, but it kind of makes sense. I'll see if I can find some facts on it.

Here is a link talking about it, so maybe it's plausible?

[–] Hagdos@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Making a second decision mandatory makes it harder to change existing laws. This can be a good thing in some cases, but not always. It increases conservatism (in that it's harder to change things).

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

No doubt. The goal is to make it harder for memes to affect the outcome of a decision.

Another way to approach it is if a supermajority votes for something, no secondary confirmation vote is required. Eg. reproductive choice would easily pass with one vote because it has such widespread support.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah no....as much as our current system sucks, I'd rather have some sort of a buffer before full on mob rule.

People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals...and you know it.

Full on direct democracy sounds like a good idea. Until you realize it's two wolves and a sheep making dinner plans.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I fail to see how that’s different than the way it currently works, except you get the tyranny of the far right minority instead of tyranny of the majority.

Or another way to look at it, with your analogy, instead of two wolves, you have one professional career wolf who is far more effective at his job.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

Nah it's more like the wolves lawyers and the sheep's lawyers fight it out. Like a proxy war.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I say liquid democracy would be better

[–] l3e7hax0r@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Super earth has my vote for managed democracy! o7

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ew. I almost clicked a Reddit link. 🤮

Mostly /s. Kinda.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

My sincere apologies.

[–] Zorcron@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Doing the lord's work. Thank you

[–] Killercat103@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago

Ironically as libertarian (not capitalist) I guess I want BIGGEST government.