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[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 51 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But now they will have nothing to do for the next six years and will get bored.

Also, CNN tells me that overachieving at environmental policies is a CCP psyop to make the West look bad.

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

overachieving at environmental policies is a CCP psyop to make the West look bad.

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[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

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“During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.

"If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait, where did CNN say this?

On their channel or in an article? Now I'm curious.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol, i don't know if they've ever said that exactly, but they've definitely said things just as absurd in dozens of headlines and articles. This was just a riff on a common trope you will see in western media all the time when it comes to their China reporting. "But at what cost?" is a meme for a reason.

We've all seen it, China does something, good, bad, neutral, whatever, doesn't really matter because the western media always find a way to spin it to fearmonger, demonize and denigrate China. On their environmental successes the usual western cope is either a simple "they're lying, the CCP data is fabricated" or one of a thousand variations of "yeah but they're just doing it to make money/gain global dominance", or "yeah but what about this story about pollution in China from 10-20 years ago?", or "yeah but they still pollute more than [insert country with a fraction of China's population and/or industry]", and so on.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's getting to the point of unnerving for me personally. It seems even Democratic voters will sell out their souls as long as China is defeated. I've seen it IRL. The attitude a lot of these folks have. It's absurd.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 month ago

It's definitely an unhealthy obsession that they have.

[–] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 month ago

China completing large scale projects ahead of schedule is always a good bet. :)

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] whyalone@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What about the cost? Does it matter?

[–] GaryLeChat@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] whyalone@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago
[–] alzheimer@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 month ago

might be time to get a work visa in beijing

[–] Dr_Llamaz@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Never skip hopecore