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[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 39 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We have literal Nazis stealing all our private information right this second…but THIS is the bill that gets to the floor?

Fiddling while Rome burns.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think you understand. Rome burning is the distraction. Shit like this is the real goal. The U.S. will be lucky if it hasn't collapsed to neo-feudalism in the next four years.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Alarmism doesn't help just like energy drinks don't help. You get a short period of strong agitation followed by a longer period of mild apathy.

Nothing happens abruptly.

Also it's called oligopolized capitalism, or maybe state capitalism, I forgot what Nazi Germany's economy system was called, but that'd be the right classification.

However, the ideology is not that of Nazi Germany, not even similar. It's still a democracy, however shitty it would seem. Maybe, yes, a 4 years long sample of those Confederate States of America some people wanted, but not even the full bouquet of taste.

In any case, things like this bill could have been seen from 20 years ago. A lot of people just thought it's not important. Just like it always happens.

We are sitting discussing things without doing anything, a reminder. You know something to hurt them - you do that. You don't - why bother?

EDIT: Admittedly I'm in Russia, so have less incentives to be scared about this and more about one friend.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 30 points 15 hours ago

is anime a form of Piracy?! One Piece I guess?!

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 17 points 15 hours ago

I don't currently sail the high seas, but clamping down on access and making it harder to enjoy content, increasing prices, blocking account sharing, and adding unskippable ads and promos make me want to pirate, just out of spite!

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Stop hiking prices on streaming services and making them awful to use while ending sales of physical media and I won't pirate content.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Totally on board.

Physical media meant straightforward ownership. I have it and I will have it. The distributor I bought from went out of business? I don't notice, my copy still works. My distributor turns out not to have had the rights to sell it to me? Well that's bad but it's done and I have my copy. I start a series and I know I can finish it before the rights move to some other distributor.

Netflix early streaming days were magic. One service had rights to pretty much everything and was relatively affordable. Now each service has a tiny fraction of old Netflix and each one costs more than twice what Netflix streaming did. Frankly paying 3x the netflix price would have been fine if the trend continued except for pricing, but alas, here we are. Also, there's no amount of money to pay to some of these services to make them shut up with ads, even with 'ad-free' offerings/plans.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I checked it again and its STILL at 0 Cosponsors and sitting in the committees inbox if it wasn't already rejected.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/791

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

Even if it passed making piracy super extra illegal+ it's targeting google and cloud flare to block access to sites within 15 days that could still easily be reached outside their boundaries. It's political theater for mpaa riaa etc industry association lobbyists to show they got something for their bribes.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

I'm currently watching The Practice. One of my favorite shows. Over the years it's been on Netflix, prime, and shit like peacock and tubi. I can't keep up with all that. Right now it's in Amazon prime which I have but can't watch because I have a "business" account and according to Amazon I shouldn't be watching shows and movies on a "business" account.

Soooo... To the high seas I go. Not that I don't want to pay for it but because it's so much easier.

And now I'll have the show for whenever I want to watch it.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago

Brilliant. Make murder illegal now.

[–] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Wasting their time

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Do they not know the concept of piracy? That's like Walmart and Target backing a new bill to stop shoplifting.

They could just make a better service. Between the password sharing, and everything being scattered everywhere, what did they expect? I'm going to pay for half a dozen services and still not get to watch what I want? Or I may be able to watch it and pay for the privilege to see ubskippable ads? You can only beat us with so many sticks before we stop feeling it. Come back with a carrot.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's much harder when all your ISPs and the world's largest DNS resolvers block the IPs or resolving the DNS, which is what this dystopian bill proposes. Make no mistake, this is Orwellian censorship masquerading as piracy protection.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Then we have to build a community DNS 🤷🏻‍♀️ you can’t really block free internet

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

It's hard and complex, but they can. And they aim to.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, why not onion routing and tor?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Tor can be blocked.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

We've been able to chat with people inside failed/repressive states forever even though their governments very much want to block it. Blocking communication between people who want to talk is incredibly difficult. They can make it hard but I'm not sure they can stop it completely.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 points 10 hours ago

North Korea was able to stop it. Granted, they literally just don't allow any of the tech in the hands of the average person with threat of torture or death. But dystopian is as dystopian does.

I see your point, though, and it'll likely always be possible to bypass those controls, at least for people with the know-how. But that's not the average citizen. Let's do what we can to ensure it doesn't come to this in the first place.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Corporate legislation, making America Great as always.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Not in this particular case, not yet, you can view it's status HERE and it's still at 0 cosponsors.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Hard to discuss this bill since the text isn't even on there yet. But apparently companies expressing approval have seen it.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Difficulty aside, it's currently a non-bill as far as anybody should be concerned. There is a lot going on and this isn't really something until it gets more representatives behind it.

I mean ffs the new admin struck down Net Neutrality already, where are the people concerned by that?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago

They weren't worried about it last time and they're not worried about it now.

My only faith in the system is that they will screw over such a wide number of people that it'll piss people off enough to care.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Same with freedom lol.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oh. Making something illegal illegal again? That’ll be effective.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

It'll be super duper illegal

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's a slippery slope. Soon they will make doing illegal things a crime.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 15 hours ago

Brb connecting to a Chinese VPN so I can access content outside of the US Firewall.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

But not if they're the ones doing the illegal stuff, apparently.

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[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 88 points 1 day ago (5 children)

If you read the bill, heavily sponsored by the MPA, part of it is about forcing ISPs (and presumably US based VPNs) to block the DNS/URLs of "foreign criminal" sites.

It's laying the groundwork for a Great American Firewall.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you use a US-based VPN, you fucked up yourself.

[–] Eyedust@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Viva la Mullvad. I was sick of being bullied into buying more to get a deal. It may not be the cheapest, but I love that it's the same price across the board.

Plus, the only way you're going to get anything cheaper is by locking into a 1-3 year plan when you may not even need it every month.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm locked into ExpressVPN for a year but I was thinking about switching to Mullvad shortly. ExpessVPN isn't bad but being in the British Virgin Islands does give me a bit of anxiety.

[–] Eyedust@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Mullvad has a lot of perks. Like I mentioned, no deals for buying yearly. Get it month by month for the same price. No account connections. You get an ID number and that's it. That ID is your password and username. Pay with nearly anything. Crypto, card, money services, even mail in physical cash.

There's a lot to love about it, and it hands down has some of the fastest tunnels I've used. Nord was always half my internet speed no matter what I connected to. You don't even need Google Play if you want to use it on android. It's open source, so grab it right on F-Droid. Easily supports any OS. If you don't want a GUI, there's a CLI alternative, too.

This advertisement was not paid for by Mullvad VPN.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks! Honestly the only reason I paid for yearly was because I've had it for like five years now and I got sick of paying $12 every month.

Plus the one benefit I like is I paid extra for a dedicated IP (mostly used for my streamer since it has better luck with my streaming services like Prime UK; though I'm ending Prime at the end of the year)

[–] Eyedust@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I canceled Prime a few years back and it hasn't hurt me at all. You really get nothing in return, except maybe Prime Day deals and even then you can find the deals elsewhere. I've taken to cutting out the middleman and ordering through the product's actual website to better support them.

Mullvad has been €5 since 2009. Comes to a little over $6. $12 is just highway robbery. You won't regret the switch.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I believe Tuta is around €5 too so both would still be less than ExpressVPN

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