It hurts people who aren’t in their arbitrary in-group, and they believe that is good. They believe any affliction to them by way of those harming the out-group is a necessary sacrifice to cleanse society of the evil sin of not being in their arbitrary in-group.
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They get to be part of a cult of hate?
They get to say the n word with confidence, in certain situations, far from large groups of POC's, at their dive bars... surrounded by their christo fascist friends... where was I going with this?
They're a cult, everyone within the cult implicitly agrees on the reality that matches what the leader(s) say regardless of what the leader does. There are many pipelines into the cult, gamers/incels, being an outcast for some reason, the general shitty state of things, etc they all lead to a desire for things to be better in some way. The leader promises this and everyone in the cult agrees that following the leader will fix these things somehow. If the leader does something contrary it is justified simply by saying that you as not the leader don't understand. There's 5d chess being played and while you're awesome and good with 4d chess because you're in the cult only the leader and some of the higher ups know the 5d strategy. Don't worry and trust the leader. Drink the Flavor aid, your kids and friends already did.
It seems to me Trumps strategy is always to promise different, often contradictory, things to different people. Anti elite is the red thread.
By tearing the entire country down, I guess a lot of his base feels he is successfully fucking up the elites. They like him because his different and promises real change, and I guess that's what they are getting.
There is no more consensus about anything between MAGA people than there is among the left. People are individuals and they have different values. Voting for a party/candidate doesn't mean they agree on everything. There's likely greater differences in views and values within the groups than between them.
the left
Quick reminder: America has no left. The Dems are centre-right vs GoP far-right (and counting).
This is very true.
Here in Missouri, for instance, voters went red but also passed a $15 minimum wage, required paid sick leave, and voted down an abortion ban. It's ironic, considering Democrats always insist that if they just get more ~~conservative~~ centrist they'll win elections.
They say it all the time. You just have to hear, and more important, listen to them
About 70% of reps think the government deficit is too high. About 45% of Dems think the same. Both have been, interestingly, increasing yearly.
Widespread, 60% of voting age adults in USA think the government spends too much "on shit nobody cares about". My quote.
Because people want the spending on medical care, education, science, social security, helping the needed and so on. Polling shows it.
But this has to come at a cost.
Dems want a bigger state apparatus behind all this.
Reps want an efficient, smaller one behind this.
Interesting as well , a lot of people, like 40%, want more spend in security forces.
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Our explanations for the behavior of outsiders say more about our beliefs than theirs.
Even explanations that feel correct to us are almost certainly wrong in important ways.
There's plenty of scholarship on the various reasons people support fascism, that's probably your best chance for a full answer.
I personally think it's like a short circuit in the brain's reward circuit or something. If you can convince people that what they are doing is achieving a greater good, they will do an endless amount of evil in order to achieve it.
Those that wake up from this delusion often end up being horrified at their own actions.
It should go without saying, but I'll say it anyway:
If you are anticipating being enriched by the suffering of others, you are not in the right.