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Is it me or Ubuntu secretly replaces DEB Firefox with Snap Firefox? (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 day ago by sourov@lemm.ee to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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After creating a fresh installation of Ubuntu 24.04, I installed DEB Firefox from APT by following Mozilla's instructions from here. But I noticed that it was secretly replaced with Snap Firefox. I was able to verify this by checking the About Firefox page. This is the third time I noticed this.

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[–] shy_mia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Yeah they've been doing that for a while

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 29 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I suggest Mint or straight Debian. I prefer Mint for anything graphical, Debian for headless

[–] neomachino@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What benifit does Mint have over Debian for anything graphical?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 10 points 21 hours ago

I've just found it's more polished right out of the box. Definitely more new-user-friendly, like Ubuntu, but with Snap gutted out.

I have been using the regular Mint (based on Ubuntu), but I'm probably going to use the Debian edition next time I install a new system

[–] TxTechnician@lemmy.ml 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I battled that for about a year and then ditched Debian based diatros altogether.

OpenSUSE ftw

[–] Noble_bacon@lemmy.ml 4 points 12 hours ago

You could have gone pure Debian. There are no snap shenanigans over there :)

OpenSuse is also a great pick tho!

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Welcome to 2020, where Debian is once again your trusted distro.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

Always was.

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Not a secret, but annoying as hell. I usually replace it with a Flatpak and uninstall Snap.

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah it's not really a secret

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[–] Morphit@feddit.uk 59 points 1 day ago (15 children)

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[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

I've had it happen too. In fact it is what prompted me to move away from Kubuntu.

[–] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 92 points 1 day ago (6 children)

They started doing that in a couple of years back. Saw quite a bit of backlash in the Linux news media at the time.

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[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup. They also did this with Docker, and it broke my setup (and was a bitch to debug).

This was a couple of years ago, and I haven't used Ubuntu unless absolutely necessary (and then usually in a container).

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Docker in a snap is too meta for me.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 21 hours ago

Just wait for snap 2.0 which actually runs everything inside docker containers /s

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yes. That was the last straw for me. I switched to debian stable, and haven't looked back since

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[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Solve the problem. Drop ubunutu

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 62 points 1 day ago

It is one of the reasons many people turn away from Ubuntu.

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago

Definitely not you, they absolutely do this with snaps and have for a while. This was the main reason I stopped using Ubuntu.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 17 points 1 day ago (13 children)

This is why i switched to Debian. It's 99% of Ubuntu, without the crap.

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[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Not secretly, no.

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But it's not obvious either. When I say 'apt install firefox', specially after adding their repository to sources.list, I'd expect to get a .deb from mozilla. Silently overriding my commands rubs me in a very wrong way.

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[–] phar@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago (16 children)

At this point, why is anyone using Ubuntu for desktop? You have soooo many options

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago

Jesus Christ this is Windows-tier insane computing behaviour from Ubuntu. Fuck Ubuntu.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wasn’t that one of the main critiques of snap/ubuntu/canonical a few years ago already?

Among my personal dislike for its shade of purple, that has been my primary reason to not recommend ubuntu for a while, at least.

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