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[–] grainOfSalt@lemm.ee 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I came here to write "Elise Stefanik is a moron", but then I noticed Chen already called her an idiot. What an embarrassment to NY-21 congressional district (thankfully not mine). I love going up to the Adirondacks, but man is it MAGA country now.

Last summer, I noticed the print on demand t-shirt shop in Old Forge that has been there since at least the 80s is now run by magats. They had a row of anti-LGBTQ shirts and the usual Joe Biden hatred crap on display and I just walked out. I'm so tired of people making everything political and wearing it on their sleeves, sometimes literally.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 19 points 16 hours ago

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

I may not like the CCP, but you have to give credit to where it is due. The government is run by pragmatic technocrats with long term vision. These are the characteristics that America has lost long ago. It is so ironic and funny that it is China who is the promoter now of international free trade.

[–] hasz@lemm.ee 18 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Holy shit no.

The CCP is mostly controlled by Xi Jinping, and he’s happy to purge anyone who gets in his way, since 2012 and continuing today. He’s also forcing compliance at every level — from disappearing Jack Ma for the mildest of CCP criticism to enforcing a blackout of tianamen square in their ai models. He is much closer to Putin than Trump.

This same control-freak policy applies to their trade. Want to do business in china? Be prepared to set up a 50/50 joint stock company. Want to move money out of the country? Good luck, 50k/year max. This is why so many Chinese buy foreign property, they are trying to move assets outside the reach of the CCP. It’s also why China turns a blind eye to the fent trade — it weakens the US and provides a valuable source of hard (ie cash) currency for China.

Don’t get it twisted, the CCP is run by authoritarians with little tolerance for dissent, not wise technocrats building a better China.

Chinese belt and road initivate can nearly be called free trade.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, CCP is authoritarian, but the party has long term vision for the country. Because they don't want to revert back to the so-called century of humiliation when China became technologically behind and had been carrion feeds for outside powers. The country had been isolationist which made Imperial China weak, but the CCP decided to open up and use international free trade to assert their own influence, instead of being controlled by it like before. Much of CCP's decision making is influenced by historical trauma, as well as from Confucian idea of mandate of heaven-- that the ruling government is only legitimate so long as they can deliver for the people.

So even though Xi cracks down on dissent, he is open to ideas when it comes to technological advancements and pushes his subordinates to keep up. And as we can see, Deep Seek had beaten Western AI development at a fraction of the cost, and China is leading in manufacturing electric vehicles and battery and other renewable technologies. Millions of Chinese had been lifted out of poverty, and the older generations still remember the hardship and the war so many Chinese feel grateful. Xi wants the CCP to prove to the population that only they can deliver progress. But as you pointed out, there is a cost to all of this.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

The CCP long term vision isn't for China and Chinese citizens, it is entirely for the CCP.

[–] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Just being pedantic regarding the AI models; they're only censored on the publicly hosted versions. Like any other model if you run it locally you're only restricted by the model's training

https://ollama.com/

[–] duckythescientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Nope, running locally still has censorship issues, just not as much

https://www.wired.com/story/deepseek-censorship/

[–] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago

Your article literally proves my point

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[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

FWIW, I HATE the CCP. Though they do keep China from being all it could be which could be bad for other countries.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 7 points 16 hours ago

First in Oligarch pillaging that boosts stock market. Only metric that matters for US success. First in genocide support, comming closer to home that you expect!

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago

After "gun violence", he should've added "gun violence against children".

[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

Why are repubs so freakin divisive? Like, why not we lift one another up? Dumbasses

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

The truth is that the U.S. contributes the most to foreign aid funds, and still gets zero to little political good will.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_development_aid_sovereign_state_donors

[–] Crankley@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago (8 children)

Any reason you can think of why that might be the case?

[–] Ghosthacked@lemm.ee 3 points 15 hours ago

Ok guessing 50-70 million psycho racist MAGA rednecks might have a factor in that

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[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

A better statistic with which to make comparisons between nations is the % of GDP or budget of said nations devoted to aid. The US is first in the actual amount given, but our budgetary % is pretty low compared to other nations. Not to mention the aid figures given include military aid and similar that ends up coming back to US companies.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

It's the American way to destabilize a country than pay for aid.

No wonder it doesn't end up with net positive political good will.

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[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

Burned.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it's perfectly fair to prioritize yourself first. Politicians should do that.

But why does she want China last? That's just hatred.

I remember when political news were pictures of people shaking hands and making trade agreements. These days it's all screenshots of social media posts made from someone hiding in a basement or gated community. Trump refusing to answer a telephone call from Canada while using his phone to tweet out more bullshit is a new low.

American politics might be two sided team game, but international politics are not. Unfortunately for the republicans, they desperately need an opponent to make themselves relevant. They simply don't have anything else to offer.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 8 points 18 hours ago

Casual racism is very American.

[–] EnderWiggin@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Neither country really has a leg to stand on here. China sucks too.

Taiwan #1!

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[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 100 points 1 day ago (23 children)

To be fair, we have no idea how many COVID infections or deaths China had or how many prisoners they have. It isn't like they are the most transparent with either matter.

Everything else he said checks out. 🇺🇲

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 hours ago

They had robots spraying disinfectant on streets. They would test and barricade people in homes who were positive. They would also feed them though. Whole city quarantines. They did not fuck around on Covid. It's reasonable that not fucking around achieved a low death rate. It shows how much richer they really are compared to west in being able to afford such measures.

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