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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean its a nice opinion but I woul disagree with the first part. The second I would agree with but more in the same way that if you are an army facing a far superior army that will not accept surrender but kill every one of you horribly you will want to fight to your last breath.

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Great but I already do as much as I personally can handle. Would be great if society at large, e.g. laws, regulations, and big corps, could get on the same level.

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[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Above a certain threshold there will be no discernible difference in the outcome to our civilisation.

The planet is fine. The people are fucked. G. Carlin was and is right.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 56 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No offense, but this is exactly the kind of active pessimism that this post is trying to combat. The only mindset that creates positive change is active optimism. In other words, hope for better and taking action to try and get there.

Note that this is not to be confused with inactive optimism. "Everything will just work out on its own". That also doesn't work.

Active pessimism is the most damaging mindset, though, because it actively drains others of their will to make things better. Feeling hopeless is real and understandable, I've been feeling it, too. Spreading it around and shutting down those who are trying to do better isn't the way to process it, though.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fucking hope police with their unscientific view that honest assessments and factual information are less important than optimism.

The OP's tweet is wrong.

This is undeniable.

There are certain limits past which feedback loops kick in and after which our actions won't matter.

[–] CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago (7 children)

I mean thats not really true even if the most catastrophic of feedback loops was actively happening if we invented something for effective carbon capture and storage or did something more drastic like launch enough nukes to start a nuclear winter we could still do something.

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

No offense, but this is exactly the kind of active pessimism that this post is trying to combat

I agree with you, but I'm not sure the post is really effective for that goal.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay. But every minute we can delay reaching that threshold will be worth it.

To me it's the same as the US democracy right now. Yes it's far too late to see no ill effects and we are already facing the consequences, but every act of resistance to unlawful, immoral and unconstitutional orders slow them down, and with enough co-ordination may slow them down enough before Trump and the oligarchs become truly unstoppable.

For any issue that effects our world's existence, stand boldly and take action. Don't let the fear of the inevitability of it consume you.

[–] Merlu@lemmy.ml -2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

In fact, they are already unstoppable. History showed us many times that when autocrats are in full power, they keep it forever, unless they lose a war or die without having planified their succession. And don't talk me about the Biden example, his presidency did not prevented an unpreceded harm by the GOP.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

“The Earth will just shake us off like a bad case of fleas.”

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

It'll at least determine how many species survive. And the threshold to total human extinction is very high, so every ton of co2 is part of a life saved.

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