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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

3 years before they even allowed sale of 3rd party F-16s and a nonstop barrage about how effective the 90s era surplus we sold to Ukraine was gonna magically win the war.

I got banned from NCD for sharing this sentiment saying that there was literally no outcome where the US would allow Ukraine to join NATO, regardless of the acting government.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

NCD is basically a NATO fanclub, so that checks out.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 11 points 1 day ago (7 children)
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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

With rare exception (Israel) America can seem downright schizo from administration to administration.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This was always Ukraine's fate.

The OG coup happened under the Obama admin, the far-right were forced into government under Trump pt I, Ukraine was forced to sell off state assets and take billions in loans by the Biden admin, and now the US is preparing to pick the bones clean over the next decades.

It's nice that yall are recognizing that the US isn't there to help the Ukrainian people now, but we're all gonna repeat this next war.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I stopped being Charlie Brown falling for the football 23 years go, when I saw that the consent manufacturing for the second Iraq war rested on no hard evidence.

Edit to add that the bone picking has been going on for two years already. Everything must go, including seaports.

[–] Toasted@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Libya was what got me, i was a chump cheering while i watched it on CNN but the more I thought about it the less sense it made then i read the shock docturine and some chomsky. Libya went from the highest score for quality of life in africa to literal slave markets. For what? So some slimy fucking americans can take their resources instead of negotiating for them?

[–] treesapx@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Rome creates a desert and calls it peace.

[–] Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not even just changes in administration. The U.S. will often suddenly move on or just decide you will work better as a villain for internal politics. The US basically told Saddam Hussein that we wouldn't care if he invaded Kuwait only to then use that invasion as justification to make him a boogeyman for the next decade.

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago

The only thing worst than a strong enemy are weak allies.

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