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[–] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure seems like Tories in power is “not what the country wants”

[–] janguv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is exactly that, yes. But what is weird is that outside of a few permanently online diehard Starmerites, I never come across anybody in any walk of life now who is saying: "what we really need is a Labour government". At this point it's just: not the Tories please, it can't get any worse. This is depressing.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

As long as the result is the Tories are out, I am not that bothered how we get there. Voter apathy might be an issue in a close race but it looks like we'll get a Labour landslide without Starmer actually doing anything other than turning up.

[–] Mex@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

I think he might just be wrong...

[–] Oneeightnine@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

I sat and watched him tell Laura Kuenssberg that he was in touch with the British people on Sunday morning.

I don't think he could be further from that reality.

[–] Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This cunt is supposed to be telling us what we want to hear, not what we want. I want him to get arse cancer, but he never asked me.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure he already had a spine cancer. It would explain the surgical removal.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

Well thanks...

I am now fighting the urge to compare the symptoms of different cancers. Just to see if arse is the worst.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Just musing but.

Wonder how many folks turning up in downing street screaming otherwise. Is required to correct his opinion.

Unfortunately protest just seems to be ignored in the 2020s> heck most of the 2000s to be honest.

As a modern society. We really could do with some way of prooving obviose lies about what we all want. Seems I have heard to many politicians over the decades lie about national will.

Really cannot think of any system other then. Er you know a fucking Genral election after PMs take power without one.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How dare you. The national will is for huge amounts of money to be wasted on not building a train line, then scrapping it, but it's okay because potholes.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100,000 – 150,000.

That's the number any protest has to reach to be considered newsworthy.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Sounds about right. But news worthy never seems to change the mind of MPs. I seriously think that might take 50%+ of he adult population squeezing into downing street. Likely need to fill the M25.

[–] frog@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

He added: "I go out [and] about every day. That's not what anybody wants. What people want is politicians making a difference to their lives."

Right, so he has explicitly asked people: "do you want a general election so you can choose which leader takes us forward during the current crisis?" and all of those people have answered "no, I just want you to carry on making a difference to our lives"?

[–] Treczoks@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

Maybe he should actually ask the country about it. Or he just confuses a quick poll among his friends with the will of the country.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Sky News's political editor Beth Rigby put it to the prime minister that he was a "man without a mandate" - having lost the Tory leadership election last year, before being appointed weeks later without a vote from members.

But when she was ousted after just 49 days in office, Mr Sunak was only selected by some of his party's MPs, leading to accusations on the backbenches that it was "undemocratic" and a "coronation".

But while Downing Street said officially that "no final decisions have been taken", sources gave Sky News' Mhari Aurora "the heaviest hint yet" an announcement would feature in the prime minister's conference speech on Wednesday - and his remarks would be "worth waiting for".

Questioned over whether he had made up his mind, Mr Sunak revealed nothing, dismissing "speculation" and adding: "I approach all these things carefully, thoughtfully, rigorously."

But pressed multiple times over whether he had made the call to announce it tomorrow, the prime minister said: "I think it's right that I'm not going to get forced into making premature decisions, not on something that's so important that it costs this country tens of billions of pounds."

He also denied that the conference had descended into chaos over the topic - as well as the return of Ms Truss and her calls for tax cuts - instead claiming Tory members had "a spring in their step" and "really support" his plans.


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