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People that complain about taxes. I’ll agree you don’t pay taxes. But you don’t use any roads to travel. Ever again.
I work with one of those people. He's a dipshit. He thinks time is controlled by satellites and clouds are made by cloud machines. Also, the earth is flat and no one has left it because of the dome.
Mine him for Sci-fi stories.
Oh. There's also this guy called the World Judge who controls all of the funding for all police stations in the world. He has ultimate authority and seems to be like Judge Dred where he is tge judge, jury, and executioner.
I think you've found the world another Karl Pilkington.
If I were Netflix I'd record everything that falls out of this guy's mouth.
Or fire services.
That's the only issue with the opt-in taxes idea. But seriously, why should the rest of us be punished because they don't want taxes? Just have the destructive people who say taxation is theft, well...live with no government services, 100% dependent on corporations. Taxes should be opt-in. And that means, those who opt out will have no medical service, no public sewage system, no disability or welfare. We can let them have the roads as gratis, just to keep the peace. They will quickly realize how stupid and evil their system really is, when they are the only ones suffering from it.
This sounds nice but in practice will backfire. You need the systems to be universal, so that everyone, including the richest, have a stake in wanting to see them improved. Otherwise you'll get a two tiered system where the public versions are trash because they're underfunded and the private versions (what the rich use) are great but also expensive af.
You want things to work like insurance, where everyone pays in but only the people who need them use it. I want Musk to pay a fuckton into Social Security, not nothing at all because he doesn't use it. Even now there's a problem with Social Security in particular because, even though everyone has to pay it, it puts a cap/limit on how much you pay, so Musk currently ends up paying his share in the first day of the year, and his contribution amounts to the same as a teacher or something.
Universal programs with progressive taxation, that's the way. Low taxes at the bottom, high taxes at the top.
It would only work if all the privateers get sent to one specific state like Texas and the two systems are kept completely separate.
Let everyone move to Texas and pay no taxes, but every hospital visit or doctors visit is paid out of pocket or by insurance companies, no one has social security or welfare, every road is a toll road, you pay a private fire fighter company a monthly fee to be on their protective detail, police are private security firms you also need to pay a fee for protection or to investigate any thefts from your property, there's no mayor or other elected representative for their town because where does the money come from to pay them, the army is also a private security company, the list goes on
Scariest possibility is they use their private army to just conquer us...
So property tax I am ok with, in theory. The people with property in a city should pay for services like fire, schools, police, road maintenance..... What gets me is when the city wants more and more for stupid shit like iPads for all students.... Every 3 years due to forced upgrades or just old style deprecation over 3 years.
The amount my taxes go up each year is more than any raise I get. Then add on insurance which has gone insane. I paid off my house to avoid a 20k female flood insurance bill because a 1 foot piece of concrete touched a high risk flood zone. A technicality because if I took down a screen patio, then I wouldn't have to pay.
It's insane how expensive owning a house has become
I paid off my house to avoid a 20k female flood insurance bill
Female flood sounds interesting
Did they mean FEMA, and autocorrect "completed" it?
Somehow autocorrect made it funnier too
So he bought a house for 6k 50 years go and now has to pay 2k in property taxes each year. If he was renting that wouldn't cover two months.
Does he also complain that the sales tax on candy bar is more than he used to pay for a candy bar when he first bought his house?
"I don't understand how inflation works and I'm blaming government for it"
If the property tax scales with inflation and social security is also adjusted for inflation, but your property tax is getting more expensive relative to your social security income, something's not right.
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I understand that housing prices are outpacing general inflation... that's kinda my point.
A big part of why housing prices are outpacing general inflation is constrained supply due to long time homeowners paying artificially low taxes.
The real problem if that's the scenario is that his social security check is less than $400/month.
You have to think more like Trump, LOL. The rich don't pay any taxes through the use of loopholes. Why should you. Slum lords should be forced to pay taxes, not working class schmo that needs a roof over their heads. Tax the slum lords.
My dad literally went to the city and argued against them raising the book value of his home, which would cause him to have to pay more in property tax.
He won too.
That loon.
You certainly can argue about your property taxes and win concessions if you have a good reason. It's not hard to do. You just need to get off your ass and attend the annual tax assessment meeting.
It's why that annual meeting exists.
I had no idea that was a thing.... Mainly because it's never been relevant to me..... At least, until recently.
Thanks for the info.
Did he go to city council chambers, or did he just vaguely go into the city itself and start arguing with people?
I was not provided details as to what he did to argue it, or who he spoke to.
.... That being said, I don't think it was the latter example you gave
This isn't a discussion on property tax, it's more about social security. There is no reason we cannot scale taxes/fines to income. Many countries pull this off...
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They dangle the carrot of "home ownership" as if anyone ever owns a home that can be taken away for not paying taxes.
Property tax is the big thing that forces people to engage with capitalism against their will.
Without property tax, you could live off-grid for eternity. But with property tax, you always have to earn money, and the people that control that money therefore control you.
without property tax, all land would be owned by corporations whether or not they planned on using it ever….
but an individual living on a property shouldn’t have to pay property tax on their home.
the guy in the picture could have 100 acre of unused land he’s holding on to, too….
another fun one is some cities will seize your property for being $1 off on your property tax payments.
While I do think there should be some relief for some people as far as property taxes are concerned... living in a town or city gives a person access to many local government subsided services. Firefighters, and ambulances are some simple ones that everyone uses. Roads as well. And the cost of that does increase over time. Basing a person's contributions to paying for that based on the value of thier property is just easier for local governments, and more stable. But it doesn't really corelate with the use of those services. Nor with income or ability to pay.
Life necessities really shouldn't be taxed at most levels. Food, shelter, water, heat, medical care. Most already aren't. But housing still is. Investment properties should be taxed of course, but an average primary residence really shouldn't be.