Man y'all have clearly never eaten in Lyon...
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This is Funny if you think about it because Modern Pizza originates from the USA and Pasta from China
Naples. Modern pizza comes from Naples.
That dish was then taken to New York where shredded cheese was used in place of the slices used in Neapolitan pizza.
Pasta on the other hand, does descend from a Chinese dish. Sort of. The Proto-italians actually invented some types of pasta dish themselves, notably the precursor to lasagna and ravioli.
As someone who's lived Italy, this does sound like something an Italian would say lmao
I'm Dutch and I think this map is completely unfair. It overrates our food significantly
As a Belgian, I agree!
The Dutch chartered an enormous company to trade spices, but never used them.
That's just common knowledge, dealers never dip into their own product.
Tbh I find Italian culinary traditions underwhelming. Like they just gave up 10 minutes in, no work at all because it's too hot.
To be fair, the further from coastline, the better the Italian cuisine - more herbs, more variety, more complex recipes (e.g Ligurian braised rabbit)
I saw a really good documentary recently, hell if I can remember the name. It covered actual Italian historical dishes. They were explaining that most of the really old stuff was region specific. Like one dish in one area had nothing to do with the same dish in another area. They actually went through kind of a food reimagining or Renaissance after one of the wars. Basically they were saying that pizza as it is now is not that old. Prior to the rush into America they had flatbreads that kind of but didn't really approximate pizza, and it wasn't until the Italian Americans repatriated that they started honing what they consider they current concept of pizza.
The concept of nations as well as their culture and cuisine are relatively young. Medieval cuisine was both highly local and also quite similar across a shared biome.
Italians have a couple of great hits and a lot of duds.
Agreed, Bosnian and Croatian food are the only proper food :3
According to this map I should probably be dead.
This tracks, every Italian I've ever met has been a complete snob about food.
u wot m8?
We've got Greggs Sausage Rolls.
All you've got is pasta and tomato sauce for every meal, and think different shaped pasta makes it a different dish!
That's like thinking beans on toast is different if you put it on different shaped bread.
I'm a little disappointed that the center is a knife and fork instead of a hand pinching fingers together to make a point
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