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[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We all know why CNBC. You could have just posted the title.

Because the drug addled used car salesman who's currently about to default on his Twitter loans decided to embrace his roots and started throwing up seig heils and is currently having a crack team of 4chan incels dismantle a government while he threatens the world and works to make what he's doing here happen everywhere.

Dude is a comic book villain. Villain of the week level. No real staying power. Either he'll go broke or die from a ketamine overdose before Xmas. And what a gift that will be. I hope it happens on video.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

die from a ketamine overdose

Please stop, I'm old and I can only get so excited.

[–] humandotexe@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd prefer full on mental breakdown while giving us his 1 bullet point live on TV, just follow Adolfo's guide all the way to the end

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Don't forget the HCN. Just to be sure you know.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Oh look, it's on sale!

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sat internet is so overhyped. As it's limited by physics cell towers will always outperform them. Simple as that.

  • cities - cables and 5g
  • country side - 4g and cables in high concentration areas
  • middle of nowhere or war zones - low orbit sats.

This is purely a security issue not a consumer one.

[–] witx@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Spoken like a true spoiled city person Good luck getting the necessary infrastructure built (cables, towers, et al) to really remote places. It's probably more expensive in the long run than having a satellite constellation.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Good luck? Most of the world is already there. I had 3g in deep jungles of Thailand last weekend and even in the most remote places in China have wire these days.

The main point is that sat is limited by physics so cell towers and wire are upgrades over sat so it makes much more sense to start with better technology now as we'll never need less connection.

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[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Idk i live in a country where we have wifi in some forests and free wifi in every large city. And we're an ex soviet shithole.

Americans honestly think their shitty infrastructure is the best in the world.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Infrastructure can be a real problem in some places.

I'm currently on a mountain and since they upgraded to a hybrid satellite/cable system the speeds have skyrocketed. Laying cable/towers is just not viable, especially with dense rock peaks blocking line of sight.

Also I have coworkers in Nigeria who lose internet multiple times a day (and often don't have the bandwidth for a video call) but most of them have bitten the bullet and paid the high up-front cost to get starlink at home. And now can do HD video calls with zero interruption (unless they have power issues, but that's a whole other thing).

So I think there's a lot of use-cases for sattelite, especially for people who aren't considered worth the investment in non-sattelite infrastructure.

It's just unfortunate that yeah, space junk is going to one day (suddenly) be a massive problem.

Edit: ah I may have replied to the wrong comment

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is why I will never be rich. I never see business opportunities to buy tons of stock and act upon them.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You also need a ton of money to invest or you're just getting pocket change.

[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Commission fees are less than a buck. The rules don't change just because you have little money.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Pocket change is better than no change.

Even if I would see them I probably wouldn't have enough money to benefit of of them

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

invest in community run broadband instead

[–] fetter@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but the surge is for Ukraine and Europe is gearing up to defend itself. It’s easier for Ruzzia to take out community broadband than it is satellites in orbit around earth.

And it's harder to do both at once.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Of course it did, While we are at it, are there any programmes that aim to clean up space junk ?

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People neglect that problem. There is so much garbage flying out there at such high speeds that unless something is done, we will never be able to have functional satellites or space launches again.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Elon's StarLink WILL accelerate the Kessler syndrome, also reminder that the Nazi literally put a tesla-sized space-junk in space

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

I actually remember that. When I saw the car in space I thought it was a reference to the 1980 movie Heavy Metal. This was when I first learned about Elon.

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 86 points 3 days ago (6 children)

“European Starlink rival” is a bit far fetched when there’s merely rumours that they might be able to offer a similar service. But that’s the stock market for you.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 73 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

They have both GEO and LEO satellites. Not on the scale of Starlink (for LEO), but they do have a network.

I am not commenting on the nature of the stock market or anything like that. Just pointing out that they do have a working network, it's not 100% speculation (like you see with crypto schemes).

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[–] espressdelivery@lemm.ee 23 points 2 days ago

So much space junk….

[–] BevsDad@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It'll be interesting to see what the Canadian telesat LEO system will be capable of. They're supposed to be launching satellites next year and are using a higher orbit so will need much fewer satellites than starlink.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 17 points 2 days ago (9 children)

But sadly increased latency. Also don't hold your breath on Canada telecom anything, we have a history of being the worst at it.

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[–] madjo@feddit.nl 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If only I wasn't too chicken shit to start investing... I was looking at Eutelsats stocks earlier in the week. But it'd be my first steps on the market so decided against it.

[–] faberyayo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Diversified investing is better anyway (for your wallet and mental health)

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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bye bye future space launches once we have full or partial Kessler syndrome.

Bye bye earth based astronomy.

But dang this tech is so much better than Hughesnet

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Kessler syndrome doesn’t really apply for purely LEO satellites. They all burn up in a single digit amount of years.

It’s not something to worry about yet.

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[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

For the dishes: I don't know the details of the 2 systems, but is there no way to retrofit the Starlink dishes to use Eutelsat's constellation? I mean if we exclude the legal IP mess for reverse-engineering the electronics and software.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Increased by 3.9X.

[–] sasquatch7704@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

Unpopular opinion: we don't need freaking internet from satellites, just get cat6 in every home and everyone is happy. I'm sure the cost would be lower then having to launch 999999.91 satellites to have similar speeds

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (12 children)

cat 6 in every home lol. you have any idea about range of cat 6? I mean, any?

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

You do if you're fighting a war against Putin and the ketamine troll is threatening to turn off your internet.

[–] witx@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 days ago

Satellites are not there for speed, but breadth

[–] SamB@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (17 children)

There are remote areas where cable won’t reach. For example, I need surveillance on a remote farm and I would love to get internet there.

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[–] abcdqfr@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Now get rid of the home and the cable, how do you cover 99.9% of the earth? Nomads need satellite, and so do rural homes too far from an isp fiber/copper endpoint But yes, if starlink has it done, why double the satellites to do it again with a different name? Because it's easier to launch 1000 more satellites than dismantle the system that enables such feats.

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[–] bassad@jlai.lu 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is starlink business model like uber/airbnb? Killing the market with low prices by circumventing regulations to establish their monopoly?

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No, it just vertical integration. You need to send up rockets to make money, so you make sure they never have an empty slot on them by filling it yourself. You get enough satellites up, then you have a revenue generating payload you can send up steady from then on.

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