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Iβm glad youβre doing this, but ultimately sad because love is irrational and I love the F-35.
this post was submitted on 15 Mar 2025
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Prime Minister Carney, I have several better solutions. Cancel the F-35 and examine the Saab JAS-39 Gripen, Dassault Rafael, or the Eurofighter Typhoon.
Can I interest you in a Eurofighter Typhoon?
Tbf. The F35 owns the sky. The Typhoon wins in a dog fight, but the way the F35 operates it eliminates the threat long before the dog fight. I would love for a European fifth generation replacing the F35 tho'
Dogfights aren't a thing anymore in modern aviation. There's a reason it was barely considered in the procurement process that led to the F-35 acquisition. Sure hope other countries step up to the plate to build viable exportable alternatives to the F-35.
They said this before Vietnam and it was wrong. Ironically if truly stealth fighters with low radar and ir profiles were to engage each other in the air they would probably end up using guns primarily again as radar/ir guided missiles wouldn't be reliable in this event.
Only if the F-35 is fully operational. $2 trillion later and the damn thing is still a maintenance pig.
Me personally? I'd love to say yes, but I'm a bit skint atm.....could I get it on IOU?
Okay, make some space in the drive and I'll bring it over later.
Fuck yeah! Canada will vote with its dollar!
Canada could do the funniest thing rn by buying J-35s at half the price.
It would be funny, but damn I would not want to buy military equipment from china
USA: We want to annex Canada. We are not joking
Canadians: Ooh China is very scary.
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Yeah, those are definitely safe from tampering.
The purpose of buying jets from someone other than America is to reduce America's influence over Canada, why would China sabotage that?
Edit: Why is this controversial? Do you think America tampers with the weapons we send to Taiwan?
The US can remotely disable an F-35.. China, I'd expect can do the same for a J-35.
I don't think the above poster doubts their ability, only that they might be less incentivized to do so compared to, say a country that has repeatedly voiced their wish to annex Canada.
Nobody expects China to remotely disable J-35's on a whim... But they might do it as they prepare to invade Taiwan.
Is Canada planning to go to war with China if they annex Taiwan?
Seems stupid to buy defense resources from a country that could become hostile. Do any European companies have anything to offer? I get that GOS and a lot of resources are still probably going to come from the USA but right now, the less the better.
It also seems stupid to keep importing on a mass scale the culture, news, entertainment, media, and media platforms of a country that wants to invade Canada. Yet here we are.
I would be thrilled if all American social media was blocked 100%. Sweep the trolls back into their caves.
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The Swedish Saab Gripen would be a good choice. It would include assembly and maintenance in Canada.
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There was the "kill switch" rumour recently that trump (any president) can remotely disable any/all f35s they wanted to
It's probably not true, but the truth is just as disasterous for foreign buyers.
A shutdown of parts out of US does essentially the same and is much easier to do on a whim and withhold the solution in negotiations.
People weren't just buying US because "we're the best" it's because we could be relied on for support, because no one fucksnwith the US military industrial complex
trump is tho, and that's a hell of a lot more dangerous for a politician than pissing off day traders
They require maintenance in the US. How well would that work if the US was invading us?
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It always seemed strange that Canada would agree (how much arm twisting?) to buy a plane that won't work well in our Arctic. We are committed to buying 16 jets but it would probably be better to buy the rest elsewhere or put our money into homegrown solutions. Maybe drones or other machines.
Excuse me sir, may I interest you in Gripen? Cold weather tested, fascist free, and oh so stylish. Book your test flight today!
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He's keeping up decorum but yeah these jets are done. You can't buy military equipment from an enemy and the jets would have to be serviced in the USA over their lifetime.
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