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The group that drafted a key blueprint for Donald Trump’s second term convened a meeting in Washington D.C. this week to consider proposals for bulldozing the European Union (EU).

The Polish investigative outlet VSquare revealed that the Heritage Foundation gathered hardline conservative groups on 11 March to hear how they would overhaul the current structures of the EU.

The “closed-door workshop” featured a debate on a new paper produced by the lobby groups MCC and Ordo Iuris entitled: “The Great Reset: Restoring Member State Sovereignty in the 21st Century”.

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[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 4 points 48 minutes ago

They reallllllllllllly hate unions

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

It's not the first and it's not going to be the last.

Most EU members are small and easy to bully for a country the size of the US if on their own (and in fact many were bullied by the US before becoming EU members) and even the mid-sized ones could be pushed around, but a block of 470 million people with a larger GDP than the US cannot be pushed around just like that, so it's absolutely in the best interests of the elites which control the US and a very large fraction of its Economy (and hence stand to gain the most from any bullying by the US of other nations) to want to dismantle any association of small and middle sized countries that makes them capable of dealing with the US as equals.

Why do you think it was wealthy Americans who funded the Leave side of the Leave Referendum in Britain (for example, by paying Cambridge Analitica to use Facebook to manipulate people into voting Leave)?! It's just that, no doubt to their great disappointment, removing Britain from the EU did not significantly weaken the EU, only Britain, and they already had vast influence in British politics so don't really gain much from Britain leaving the herd to go out all on its own.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 31 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Ugh I'm so sick of these Heritage assholes. There's needs to be an American progressive counter organization.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 1 points 13 minutes ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago)

Oops, all fed boi honeypots!

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 93 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The Heritage Foundation is a treasonous organization. They need to be stopped. I fail to understand how Project 2025 isn't outright sedition, and it should've been treated that way by Biden.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 1 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago)

It's been clear to anyone who read it that P2025 planned to dismantle the government and shred the constitution. If they were left leaning, the FBI would've been so far up the Heritage Foundation's ass, they would've been looking through their eyes like a Scooby doo painting.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's the whole "they go low, we go high" mantra of liberals.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

While in reality they're going nowhere but the hotel bar.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 31 points 15 hours ago

The US wants to add the US to this list United States involvement in regime change. They are not our friends!

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 114 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Alright guys, it’s time to roll out the guillotines again

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 25 minutes ago

This is America, sniper rifles would be more useful.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I think America needs an American solution for this American problem

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 27 minutes ago

A guillotine made of... guns

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No worries, you can have Made in America™️ guillotines

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago

Freedomtines

[–] segabased@lemmy.zip 36 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Seriously, how are these clowns getting away with having workshops? They need to be scared for their lives

[–] Sektor@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

There are huge protests in Serbia, that last several months. Did the people in power went down? No. People literally need to eat grass to say fuck this shit.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 9 points 13 hours ago

They largely own the police. Is going to taken overwhelming opposition, which is difficult to organize quickly effectively.

[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 50 points 18 hours ago

No tolerance for intolerance

[–] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 172 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

ok so let's do these quickly:

  1. declare the AfD unconstitutional in Germany
  2. make Marine Le Pen ineligible in France
  3. destitute Viktor Orban in Hungary
[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 5 points 1 hour ago

Romania already banned its fascist candidate. The others should do the same

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 39 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)
  1. All the others like-minded installed puppets by or via RF/CCP & Co.

( remember the Huawei case in Belgium) and Chinese Police Station in Europe)

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[–] Bashnagdul@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

.4. Shoot Geert Wilders and the rest of the pvv.

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[–] xye@lemm.ee 22 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

“The Trump administration’s most influential think tank, The Heritage Foundation, is receiving proposals from illiberal forces in Poland and Hungary” This part is very interesting. Are we assuming these groups are just excuses for their own agenda, or would this even be up for discussion had they not received the proposals? Something else?

[–] Munichjake@feddit.org 47 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

I am truly, honestly and in all seriousness scared. I have already sought professional help, have my First Session tomorrow but i must say... The Things that Happen These days worry me to a Point where i am truly afraid of the Future.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 47 minutes ago

Ive never been more worried in my life. Not for myself so much, I'm older so i won't have to live that long in their authoritarian future. I'm extremely worried about my 25 year old son, and my 3 year old niece. This will be their world.

It is really affecting my son, who is losing hope, and so are his friends. They don't see a future of freedom and pride in their country. My son made friends from all over the world when he was in college, and even they are worried about the future of the world with a Nazi regime in America.

If there isn't a Musk file on me yet, there will be, and eventually the list will reach my name. I've been thinking about what would radicalize me beyond propagandizing on Lemmy (now that im permabanned from Vichy Reddit after 12 years and nearly a million karma for anti-Trump posts), and all patriotic, loyal Americans should be thinking about it, too. I have to stick around as long as possible for my wife and son, but if something were to happen to them, especially my son, then I've got nothing to lose, and it's on, and i go full on guerilla warfare.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

No more doomscrolling for you. Spend time with real people face to face, and you’ll feel the difference within a week.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

Head-in-the-sand strategies wont work, you'll just pull your head out to a worse situation. It's better to learn to put your fear and anxiety to use, keeping the treason of these Nazis in front of the entire world. Make them know how despised they are in decreasing polls. Resist everything they are doing, and encourage your friends. Apply Malicious Compliance wherever possible. Keep the pressure on your government officials. Recent town halls for both Republicans and Democrats have been heavily attended by EXTREMELY angry citizens. They need to know how angry we are, and how immensely outnumbered they are.

Lean into your worrying, transform it into anger, and let that fuel your resistance.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 25 minutes ago (2 children)

If the situation really is that bad, you’ll hear about it without any doomscrolling. If you don’t come across a topic in normal casual conversations or by reading papers in a library, it’s probably not actually that urgent.

There’s so much unnecessary doom and gloom floating around on mainstream social medias that I can’t really consider them a healthy option for news consumption.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 18 minutes ago

I AM hearing about it without doomscrolling. Do you watch ANY news, or any other media?

This isn't just Liberal propaganda, these people are really dismantling our government at a record pace, and they are deliberately doing it recklessly to cause the most chaos. Not only can we NOT avoid it, we SHOULDNT avoid it. We need to turn our fears and worries into white-hot anger at what these MAGATurd Nazis are doing to our nation, and the world.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 22 minutes ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago)

This is such a privileged take. And I know because I'm also privileged. I'm a straight, white, cis, male. I grew up in an Evangelical Christian home, and could pretend to be Christian if needed (though I won't). You and I are lucky enough to be able to ignore this until we "hear about it without doomscrolling."

Like you do realize that this means that you'll hear about it when shit is really fucking bad. I guess fuck trans people, right? Wouldn't want to hurt my mental health to hear about the literal genocide that's coming.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 24 minutes ago

I understand where it comes from, but I think this is just bad advice. We cannot encourage people to ignore what is happening.

[–] Sektor@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Yes, they want you like that, like a scared little middle class, who just wants to work for a corporation, watch some sports and go skiing.

[–] aleq@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago

I can relate for sure. Not to the same degree as you, from what it sounds like, but definitely very worried for the future.

That said, I do believe Europe is more resilient than the US here. And while that has been my main pain point with the EU for a long time, the fact that it's not very democratic might make it even more resilient to fascist take-over.

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[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 52 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The ”everything is a russian conspiracy” theory seems more plausible every day…

[–] HairyHarry@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Because it is. And everybody denying it is a complete idiot.

[–] DonAntonioMagino@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

If you think everything that's happening in Europe and the US is perpetrated by the Russians, that's honestly more of an easy way of pretending an 'other' outside of the country is responsible, not anyone in the country itself.

Wilders, despite also supporting Russia, is a 100% Dutch phenomenon (starting with Fortuyn at least). These types will use any power they have to attain as much power as they can get; in the Netherlands (with the Dutch electoral system), that's a bit more difficult than in Hungary. To attain more power, it's a good idea to have some scapegoat you can make people scared of and rail against constantly: muslims, asylum seekers, recently trans folks. You don't need 'Russia' to explain these authoritarian attacks on minorities.

It's a form of scapegoating itself, actually, despite there still actually being truth to Russian disinformation and destabilisation campaigns, of course. At the same time, it overinflates Russian abilities, though Romania is worrying.

I disagree with the 'Russian conspiracy' nonsense anyway, especially when it comes to Trump. I suppose that makes me 'a complete idiot'.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

Putin's control over Trump, Musk, and entire world-wide rise of the far-right is well-established, with the evidence in the wide open. Trump and Musk had numerous personal meetings with Putin during the Biden administration, and it is clear the these two FOREIGN Sociopathic Oligarchs with no loyalty or patriotism to America, have partnered up with the most prolific traitor in American history. They dont see the potential for greatness and morality that America has always promised, they only see a rich, fat, lazy nation that will be easy to exploit for their own personal benefits.

Putin and Russia are obviously behind all of this, and denying it will only make it easier for them to progress further, and eventually succeed.

[–] DonAntonioMagino@feddit.nl 1 points 15 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago)

To be honest, the entire idea that you could use a loose cannon like Trump as an agent is pretty stupid by itself. The man doesn’t have a clue in the morning what he’ll be saying in the evening. The ‘evidence’ is one guy, as far as I’ve gathered, but feel free to make the case.

Outside of ‘the evil Russians rule the world’, there are plenty of reasons for the way Trump is acting. I think what we’re seeing is more a return (or an attempted return, anyway) of 19th/early 20th century thinking in spheres of influence, where Trump thinks it’s alright that Russia ‘gets’ Ukraine as part of its sphere of influence, if America gets Canada and Greenland. Whether it’ll actually work this way is another question, of course (I have doubts that it will). We don’t know how Trumps presidency will develop in the end, though. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump actually will end up getting mad at Putin if he doesn’t play by his rules.

Note that I’m not denying Russia attempts to disrupt western political processes, just that they are so murderously successful to even have an American president as their puppet. That the US has elected such an idiot president, is entirely their own fault (as is Wilders in the Netherlands).

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

It's both. Dividing western societies is the declared foreign policy goal in Russia. Working with right-wing demagogues is the most effective way to achieve this. That doesn't mean said demagogues wouldn't be a problem otherwise, but it's definitely being amplified.

[–] DonAntonioMagino@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago

That's pretty much my view. The extreme right in Europe and the US also forms a collaborative network itself, though, with events like CPAC. I'd be more afraid of the US than of Russia, honestly.

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[–] zaxvenz@lemm.ee 14 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/nigel-farage-meets-notorious-climate-change-denier-at-reform-hq-389715/

The director of the climate denying thinktank The Heartland Institute Lois Perry was spotted in Reform’s head offices celebrating with Nigel Farage after the party hit 205,000 members on social media.

The Heartland Institute was reportedly involved in the radical Project 2025 agenda, which was written as a roadmap for Donald Trump’s controversial second term, and it has been a leading voice in denying scientific evidence of human caused climate change.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 8 points 9 hours ago

So we can suspect that the US is joining Russia against UE because UE is pushing electricity against the oil&gas driven old world.

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Ban Facebook and X/Twitter. They're facilitating sedition.

[–] krf@szmer.info 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And Facebook and Xitter are nothing in comparison with TT. At least in Poland they are pushing „fun and trendy” far right, „common sense” far right and russian talking points into every feed. As far as I understand this is also true for most of the Europe.

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 24 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago)

The recent New Yorker article, The Cruel Kids' Table, was particularly worrying because it illustrated how fascism has moved from the fringes into mainstream youth culture. We could be looking at a generation of enthusiastic young fascists in the wake of Trump.

[–] sucius1@lemdro.id 55 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The way it's going I think we're closer to seeing the USA dismantled

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