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This came up in my health care forum.

Right now, you can legally detain someone medically when they are a danger to themselves or others for up to 72hrs. The details vary by state, but this is how we lock down individuals trying to suicide or someone mentally off the rails making threats of violence.

This variation on that law would also make opposition to Trump qualify.

Civil commitment can follow as with individuals who have profound mental illness and are not safe to be out in the world.

This is the loudest scream that democracy is dead short of hauling people out into the street and shooting them.

It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I guess I'll see some of you in the loony bin with me. We should play bingo or something.

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[–] Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

I've contacted all those that I can. A director at NAMIMN did respond to my email stating that this bill won't be heard at all. Still fucked up of them to even try.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What in tarnation? Is Trump Derangement Syndrome a real diagnosis now?

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

No, but he’s impacted mental health. I’ve had people with psychosis wondering, first term, why Trump hadn’t arrived to save them from their crappy lives yet. Crying. Shaking. Legit beside themselves with belief that he was riding in to save them from themselves post election. Going over the edge such that “the shot” needed to be deployed.

Needless to say, news was banned from that unit, airing it made breakdowns increase in both number and severity.

That said, this is not how the current conservative pundits are presenting this so called syndrome. This label is instead assisting in their dismissal of people who think Trump is having a negative impact on America, in whatever way(s) you choose to read his impact as negative. The way they toss “Trump Derangement Syndrome” around is not unlike the classic unhealthy male who can’t maintain a healthy romantic relationship and is thus quick to accuse the ex, all the exes, of being “crazy” in a sad attempt to rally social support. Similar tone.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

No, just some terminally online Trump fans think it's real.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Awww, they're feeling the pressure huh?

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I will scream it from the roof tops that he is incompetent and my dislike for him. I’m not scared.

[–] badelf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're not scared because your great grandmother wasn't thrown out a 4th floor window by Nazis. You really don't understand a dictatorship, do you?

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My grandmother was a German citizen. My blood runs deep and I fully understand how you put these people in their place.

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[–] Captain_J@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.

Free speech is dead. Democracy is dead. And now the individuals who criticize Trump can be detained in a mental hospital.

Yep, we're back to the 1930s folks

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is PROOF that Republicans LOVE Freedom and are NOT Snowflakes or Fascists!

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the litmus test for our democracy. If it passes we are so unbelievably fucking cooked.

We've been hurtling past brightline after brightline for decades. Now it is so flagrantly obvious, can it get any more obvious than multiple Goose-step Salutes, but more importantly the propaganda spin to play them off and justify it as not being a disqualifying action. They used to have to dog whistle their zeal for bigotry and xenophobia.

The question is, what the actual fuck are we going to do about it?

Organize? Direct action? That magic word that happens when you mash up insurance and male arousal? The DNC would not support or pardon folks involved in that effort, and the corporate media would absolutely vilify it.

The answer is obvious, with historical underpinning, although we still have to figure out how to "televise the revolution" in this day and age.

[–] fff45667@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

This process is already able to be abused to swat people, and the conditions are horrible for the people being held. I've seen it as a MH worker. It's not a hospital, it's a jail. There is no treatment, only observation in cells. It's deeply traumatizing and corrupt. Coercion to get people to sign into voluntary programs ($) in order to be released, or they extend their hold. The whole thing is a travesty.

[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

In Soviet America the crackpots will hospitalize you.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is not good. Eta; has anyone mentioned similar bills in other states?

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's the bill number? Is there a link to the text for a full read?

[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a Minnesota bill and the link takes you to the full text.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago
[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's interesting is that I don't think this is in the DSM

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

At the apex of the pyramid comes Big ~~Brother~~ Orange. Big ~~Brother~~ Orange is infallible and all-powerful. Every success, every achievement, every victory, every scientific discovery, all knowledge, all wisdom, all happiness, all virtue, are held to issue directly from his leadership and inspiration.

What's not to love? Of course anyone that doesn't like this guy would have to be mental!

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Lot of people here need to get informed and get a grip. Just because a bill is introduced doesn't mean it will be passed. The overwhelming majority of bills that are introduced don't pass. And this is in one state, not federal. And if the legislature passed it the governor may veto it, and it would certainly face legal challenge.

I get that everything sucks right now and it feels like we're getting attacked on every front. I get the administration is doing illegal stuff. We're in for a rough time. Still: don't give them power by acting like every idea they bring up is likely, or possible. This bill is just trolling, it's so some nobody state level legislators will have a bullet point in their newsletter and a social media post.

[–] LucidiaDiamond@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

It can’t happen here…until it does

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Lot of people here need to get informed and get a grip. Just because a bill is introduced doesn’t mean it will be passed.

But it absolutely means that republicans want to do it and will keep working at it until they accomplish it or something similar. And democrats will probably fucking go along with it because of course they will.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

You are, of course, correct. That said, the level of enforcement happening on illegal acts and judicial orders says it may not matter.

It’s a mess right now. So keeping an eye is good.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago

You're missing the point. This shit drags the Overton window to the right every time.

They are testing the limits and normalizing this shit at the same time.

It doesn't pass... Until it does. Then what.

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