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[–] snownyte@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Christianity is going to be easy.

I like other mythologies because they're interesting, they've got a lot of gods and a lot of other cultures.

Christianity only has Jesus, Moses, God and the Virgin Mary going for it. The mythology is kinda boring and very contradictory of itself. People prefer to cherry pick verses and everything to believe out of than it's intention.

[–] MasterNerd@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Idk man, when you start looking into the old testament, especially non-official/apocryphal books like the Book of Enoch, it gets pretty interesting. Especially when you take early Judaism in context with the neighboring Canaanite religions

[–] nocturne213@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My favorite is the Book of Nod.

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are some kindred who consider that book quite heretical.

[–] PartTimeZombie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The first thing Christians do when they've formed a new group is to figure out who the heretics are.

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Nod

This... might clear things up just a bit. The Book of Nod is loosely Christian/Abrahamic religion adjacent mythology of the origin of vampires in the ttrpg Vampire the Masquerade. It's the in universe origin myth of vampires.

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Crucifixion story and the end times prophecy are both pretty damn good stories, you have to admit.

[–] fkn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What? Why do you think they are good stories? They seem fairly boring to me. What am I missing?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

I wish I shared your optimism but I fear it is not happenstance that it has survived for so long. I suspect that it contains enough textual material to be easily adapted over time to serve many purposes, fit many cultural mores, and exploit various aspects of human nature.

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[–] TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

greek mythology is kinda amazing though

[–] stepanzak@iusearchlinux.fyi 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I really love it because I love fantasy worlds.

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[–] leftzero@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Bit inaccurate, isn't it..? No such thing as Greek gods and Roman gods... “Roman” gods are just your plain old Greek gods with fake beards, speaking Latin in a Greek accent, and wearing their togas in the Roman style... Should have used Greco -Roman gods for one door and something else (Egyptian, Babylonian, Norse... take your pick) for the other...

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Greek gods were just Egyptian gods. Egyptian gods were just Babylonian gods. Ba ylonian gods etc.

[–] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

And Roman Catholic church "borrowed" multiple holidays from the Roman empire

[insert the meme with astronauts and guns]

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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Christian gods are just Judaic gods, and Judaic gods were just levantine gods.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sort of. Romans borrowed gods from all over the place and created their own gods.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_deities#Alphabetical_list

Not on that list are all the emperors who were worshipped as gods.

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[–] gon@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder what the average lifespan for religions is

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Both the Egyptian pantheon and the Hellenic pantheon went through multiple iterations across the ages of their respective peoples. Neptune was the all father originally, then Zeus was made the patriarch of the Olympians (while Kronos created Phanes who begat the cosmos). Curiously Aphrodite was Astarte before, and Ishtar before that, and didn't just bring love and beauty, but also the Phoenician alphabet which would replace Linear-B.

And the way Christian and Jewish scripture is interpreted today is very different than how it was interpreted in the 16th century, or the 11th century, or the 6th century.

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

i have gone full circle and now i believe in millions of gods.

so many gods of and with all things.

gods with etsy stores.

the gods of my oil pan. the gods of my ancestors' oil pans'.

time is a god, and it will have to psychopomp itself according to the next panel of the comic.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

To be fair the Christian god is basically a Greek God with a Jewish accent.

[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty sure that was Kratos actually

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

God of War 5: Kratos kills Time for taking his credit

[–] ThePenitentOne@discuss.online 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel bad for religious people who have been deceived their entire lives' into a delusion. But at the same time, I almost feel no empathy when they go out of their way to do and say the most insane stuff with religion as a justification.

[–] Misconduct@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago

I feel so bad for the kids of these religious zealots. I used to live next to a family with a little girl (12/13ish) that just played/stood around in their yard alone for hours every day. She wasn't allowed to speak with anyone outside of their church ever or use the phone. She wasn't allowed to have toys or really celebrate anything ever. "Homeschooled" of course. Often she'd just sit out there crying because her mom constantly used her as a bargaining chip to guilt her dad to join their religion. She told her constantly that her dad didn't love them because he wouldn't join their faith and that he was going to hell blah blah blah. She riled her up and made her hysterically beg her dad not to leave them and go to hell on a regular basis. It was truly awful. Sometimes when her parents left she'd wonder over to the fence separating our homes and chat with us. I hope we were able to plant at least a seed of sanity with our talks. Poor girl.

Later I had a coworker stressing out about her kid having extreme night terrors and behavioral issues because she was SO scared of going to hell. I, knowing her kid was only 7, kinda laughed and said something like "did you tell her 7 year olds aren't ending up in hell?" To which she got angry, snapped at me, and said that she wouldn't lie to her daughter like that. She seemed genuinely offended that I expected her to have cared more about her young child having a mental breakdown at the age of 7 than appeasing her rancid asshole of a god.

Abhorrent parenting from stupid and small minded people all around. If that's what they deal with as kids no wonder they're so broken and incapable of rational thoughts as adults. It's SO important to keep this shit out of our schools.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Eh, “time”. I’d say so far only religion has killed other religions. I don’t think there’s ever been a time where atheism was as prevalent as it is now after the concept of religion was first formed.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If the metric used is the number of figures in the pantheon, it will be very interesting to do the math for hinduism, budism, dao and shinto.

Like it or not, ~~religiosity~~ belief isn't going anywhere. Science can not provide meaning for life or the universe where we exist.

What we can and should fight for is a society where belief is solely personal matter, with no room or weight on the broad public forum.

[–] LarryTheMatador@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)
[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Rather than a question of adulthood vs childhood, the reality is that humans evolved certain traits and abilities that mean superstition and religion are in our nature, for better or worse, like it or no.

Humans had to become adept at determining the intent of other humans and of animals to the point where we tend to anthropomorphize animals, inanimate objects, even concepts like justice and luck and fate.

We evolved mechanisms to avoid harm by remembering past experiences and predicting future ones. Though flawed from the standpoint of rationality, these adaptations were enough to prevent extinction of humanity at large, while leaving us saddled with numerous cognitive biases that leave us more likely to believe unfounded claims of a spiritual nature.

The antidotes to irrational, superstitious thinking are knowledge and critical thinking skills. It takes time, effort, and dedication to gain the upper hand against our nature.

It may be impossible to completely overcome our nature. Still I do hope we are able to set aside the most harmful manifestations of our nature: dogmatic thinking and religious zealotry.

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[–] Gargantu8@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You got me excited for the next God of War reboot at first glance! haha

[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Horus: standing tall in the distance, laughing heartily

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[–] Aagje_D_Vogel@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago

More blood for the Blood God.

[–] lanolinoil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uhhh don't you mean Yahweh

[–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Eh less people would have gotten it if it said it like that

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[–] QuaffPotions@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Inaccurate. Neopagans and reconstructionists exist, and have growing communities. A thing doesn't have to be the most popular thing to be alive and well.

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Glycon still has at least 7 followers. Checkmate atheism.

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[–] jkmooney@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, and they only have the one God....

[–] Frigid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I argue it's 2. One at endgame though.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Frigid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was referring to Satan, but yeah the Trinity makes it even more convoluted.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, Satan is an "evil god" no matter how much they try to deny it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

And then there are angels, which are demigods. The only way you can really describe them is as demigods.

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