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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 66 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Hoo boy here comes the brain drain!

Maybe Europe can call it operation stapler...

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It actually started the day after the election. People are actively searching for ways to escape this shit-hole country.

I know I am.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I left after I saw how we handled covid. I have friends who started looking in November of 2016 and family who did in January of 2001. We didn’t start the fire.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

So it's happening in reverse, he's burning the place down before his red Swingline keeps getting taken.

~…swingline~ ~stapler…~

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 37 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'll be pleasantly surprised if the EU and its members don't fumble this opportunity (both for themselves and for the scientists). Many EU countries are having a resurgence of anti-immigration sentiments and e.g. in Germany the immigration bureaucracy was already extremely awful before the recent shift to the right - it's one thing to be shitty and stupid about refugees, but by what I hear from friends who have personal experiences it's pretty bad for highly qualified people, too.

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So far my German immigration process has been hazy at every step. It's more like the information isn't clear and the process requires careful reading of shifting rules all the time. Not so much antagonism, more like underfunded infrastructure.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you haven’t already, try bringing a German with you to the ausländerbehörde. It’s wild how much politer and more attentive they are

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is a gute Idee.

I'll make a note and see if I can convince someone to tag along for our appointment.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I’m tall, blue eyed, fluent in German, and I married a German, so racists always consider me “one of the good ones”(until they actually talk to me). It was still absolutely night and day to go with my husband. It’s probably worth buying a friend lunch.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago

It would be dangerous to assume that the underfunded infrastructure is an accident, though.

[–] Trihilis@ani.social 11 points 1 week ago

It's pretty sad a lot of people are dumb and racist.

They don't hate immigrants, they just hate assholes. And being an asshole is not related to where you're from. Shitty right wing politicians just want to make everyone believe it's immigrants.

Some of the worst people I know have been born and raised in the country I live in.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm thinking the same. The anti-immigration stuff already is hitting researchers. Getting registrerd, getting a bank account, a phonenumber, the apps (in sweden it is more or less necessary to have an id-app created by a cartel of banks). All of them are growing problems for immigrants in general and researchers in particular.

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think there will be any issues if they are white enough.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

This affects EU citizens too. I myself had problems moving back to my own contry.

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I think this is the worst part it will take multiple decades to recover from science losses.