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‘They chose the billionaire’: Tim Walz returns to Minnesota as part of ‘revenge’ tour (www.theguardian.com)
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Summary

Tim Walz held a town hall in Minnesota as part of a national tour, reflecting on Democrats' 2024 loss and rallying support for progressive causes.

Walz framed the tour as part brand redemption, part Democratic catharsis, and part rally, while hinting at a potential 2028 presidential run.

He criticized Republicans and billionaires like Elon Musk, saying, "They chose the billionaire. We gotta do better."

He proposed creating a "shadow cabinet" to challenge GOP policies and advocated for protecting social programs and trans rights.

Walz acknowledged the need for stronger messaging to counter Trump’s influence, emphasizing healthcare and social security as key issues.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 83 points 1 week ago (3 children)

“They chose the billionaire. We gotta do better.”

Second part is what matters, and what should be in headlines.

The party failed voters, and they need to do better. The entire point of settling for moderates was supposed to be electability, but moderates aren't electable. And when they do get elected, they don't accomplish anything.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

DNC chose the billionaires too. Yes, you have to do better buddy.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The stated point was electability. Given the DNC's reaction to repeatedly being shown that pushing right has given them essentially 0 votes and they've double and tripled down on that strategy and have explicitly said they want to go after big dollar donations instead of small donors, seems like it's more ideological than electability.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

have explicitly said they want to go after big dollar donations instead of small donors

Honestly, every time the only criticism of Ken Martin is him saying he wouldnt refuse donations from a billionaire, I feel a lot more confident in him running the DNC.

Guy ran a state party for years, resulting in not just Dem gains, but progressive Dems...

And the only thing you all can find on the guy is him saying he would accept donations from some billionaires while campaigning for DNC chair....

Like, the obvious reason he was asked that in the first place was he's progressive and saying "no billionaires" would make him lose, and if he won the sound bite could be used to turn voters away from the new more liberal DNC.

Do you just not see any of that?

You don't have the slightest inkling that mainstream media (owned by conservative billionaires) turning on the DNC could possibly mean that good things happened at the DNC?

If it was a neoliberal running things, we wouldn't see any criticism of the DNC from major news organizations

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Ken also selected Elissa Slotkin to rebut Trumps speech. Lets dig into her wikipedia and related links, maybe that will show us why Ken picked her and what his new direction is for the party:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elissa_Slotkin

Caucus memberships: New Democrat Coalition "who take a pro-business stance and a liberal-to-moderate approach to fiscal matters."

Problem Solvers Caucus "equally divided between Democrats and Republicans, with the Caucus' stated goal of fostering bipartisan cooperation on key policy issues." "The Problem Solvers Caucus developed over time as an outgrowth of informal meetings organized by the group No Labels". "chaired by Joe Lieberman."

Oh, Joe Lieberman, the reason the united states could not get to a public option. Neat! Who better for Ken to select. I guess if the new DNC chairman couldnt get Joe Liberman himself (cause he is dead) Slotkin is a close enough standin.

And whats Slotkin been doing since the rebuttal speech?

She's been trying to kick progressives in the face. Some great "change" at the DNC there eh? "Senate Democrat questions what Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez have ‘actually done’ "

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5207337-slotkin-sanders-ocasio-cortez/

and of course, Slotkin is a self described zionist. Seems to be a rabbid one. We Dems have a proud tradition of being completely bought out and owned by far right genociders in a foriegn country thats committing daily war crimes with our weapons, why stop that now? Good job Ken.

Yeah thats clearly a real turnaround at the DNC, thanks givesomefucks for the keen insights on how nothing will fundamentally change at the DNC under Ken Martin. I'm excited. Onward to victory in the next elections!

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So it's not enough for neoliberals to be out of power....

You wanted them to stop existing?

No one has time for this bud, if you want to keep helping fascists go for it, but you're going to quickly find the only people not blocking you, are only out looking for slap fights

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You wanted them to stop existing?

Are you claiming the dem coalition can only exist if the neolibs lead it? I think progressive ideas have always defined the party in peoples eyes, and centrists are soft or lite on everything and rotate between dem and republicans as they please. They dont want to lead anyone anywhere in particular, so they cant lead.

And its not me destroying the party, its the centrsists like you. I'm not the one who caused losses across every voting demographic in the last election, so stop trying to blame others for the outcome of your failed philosophies.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not referring to Ken Martin saying that.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then you don't understand how the DNC operates.

He is the chair effective about a month ago, he has all the power and is accountable to no one as chair.

He literally and figuratively is the DNC now

[–] quill_pusher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think commenter was probably talking about this

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

That's a pretty low opinion of them....

Earlier this month, the centrist think tank Third Way gathered the group, which included Democratic consultants, campaign staffers, elected officials, and party leaders, in Loudoun County, Virginia, to come up with a game plan on how to return to relevancy, Politico reports. But the resulting conclusions seemed way off base.

That's obviously not the DNC

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But it worked so well in the 90s! Any year now it's bound to pay off!

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

at the rate the party is losing the support of its base in another couple failed elections the problem will just sort of disappear.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

Right…it’s almost as if they really just want to be conservatives instead. Actual conservatives will win that contest approximately 100% of the time.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (7 children)

That seems like a dangerous thing to call your tour when the fascists are already trying to shift the narrative that Democrats are terrorists

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Donald Trump is on his revenge and retribution tour,” he said. “Well, I said I’ll be on one, too. I’m going to bring revenge just raining down on their heads with their neighbors getting healthcare. They’re gonna rue the day when we got re-elected because our kids with special needs are going to get the care that they need.”

Context matters even if the fascists will ignore it.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago

Correct. Our revenge is human rights. Our revenge is helping each other. Our revenge is a better world.

That's why we can call it that.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

We need more people with a microphone to tell it like it is. Silence is complacency.

[–] 96ToyotaCamry@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

We gotta fight fire with fire. Avoiding potentially “dangerous rhetoric” is part of what got us here, we need to tell it like it is and start referring to things as “common sense” because that will reach the majority of Americans.

[–] LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago

If they're going to do it anyway then why worry about it?

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is often perspective.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 2 points 1 week ago

If we keep going like this, there’s gonna be a lot of actual terror, so buckle up buttercup.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago

while hinting at a potential 2028 presidential run.

No, fucking STOP IT you old fucks. Use what little fucking energy you have left to support a YOUNG AND POPULAR candidate not more of the same aging bullshit. You should be focusing on talking to real people and pushing the issues that real people care about for the benefit of the entire fucking country, not this "it's my turn" bullshit.