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[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 22 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Me listening to tankies describe communism as a moneyless, stateless, classless world, then criticise anarchism

[–] zwekihoyy@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

people still use the word tankie ? my guy most communists these days are anarcho communists.

tankie was never funny anyways

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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (3 children)

What if heaven is just whatever you need heaven to be? Like, what if it's just a temporary state of affairs? You enter Heaven, and it is exactly what you need to be at peace with your death and your life before that. Then, when you're ready, after however much time you need, you can decide to move on and stop existing, or send your soul to be reincarnated.

[–] Charzard4261@programming.dev 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This is similar to what Rick Riordan (author of Percy Jackson) suggests in one of his other works - that the afterlife is simply whatever you believe it to be. It's pretty comforting imo.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 days ago

The gods of the Disc have never bothered much about judging the souls of the dead, and so people only go to hell if that’s where they believe, in their deepest heart, that they deserve to go. Which they won’t do if they don’t know about it. This explains why it is important to shoot missionaries on sight.

[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Personally I wouldn't like it to be what you believe it to be, rather what you need it to be. Some people don't know what they need until they have it. You can believe that Heaven is endless sitting in a circle and piling devotion upon God, but if that isn't actually going to help you be at peace, then what good is it gonna do you? How is a baby going to form a belief of what their afterlife is?

No, I reckon Heaven ought to be what you need, not what you want. I want my afterlife to be me being a series of Isekai protagonists in my favourite fictional universes because I secretly want to feel clever and powerful and knowledgeable about things to come, but indulging me probably isn't the best way to put me at peace.

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Watch The Good Place.

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[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago

Can we just have tiny villages where we tell ghost stories and just all contribute to each other's well being?

[–] Blindsite@lemmy.today 6 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Problem is real world communism always ends up as authoritarian dictatorships.

[–] zwekihoyy@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago

it's almost like American imperialism has made sure that any attempt has failed by economic and military disruption and injecting dictators with the goal of dissuading others from trying.

the second there's a success story western capitalism becomes unnecessary and a better system comes into view.

[–] AHuman2@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago

Also communist economy is impossible to implement since there is no all knowing god to fuck all the people siphoning the money out via corruption. Communism is great if you can remove humans from the equation. Mofo humans fuck every system up, we are the problem.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

Lol, heaven is also an authoritarian dictatorship

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Also, heaven is an absolute monarchy. The fact so many commies don't even see the difference between communism and a monarchy should tell you all you need to know.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Also, heaven is an absolute autocracy. The fact so many fundies don't even see the difference between US and facism should tell you all you need to know.

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[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Heaven is described as being populated by perfected people, not by their own doing.. The world we live in is populated by selfish people primarily. Hell even toddlers are selfish. It's a redefinition of human nature. Whether or not it's a fantasy, it would actually make it work flawlessly.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I know that's not your point, I just want to point out that toddlers aren't selfish as much as they just haven't developed empathy yet, as a sense of empathy usually only develops after the 4th birthday. The golden rule just doesn't work for toddlers, they can't put themselves in someone else's shoes and imagine how they feel. There's a riddle/test with a doll and a closet that illustrates this well.

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[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Cooperation and sharing are just as much "human nature" as selfishness. We contain lots of "natural" impulses, but people will prioritize and grow into those impulses which society most rewards.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yea, and pure capitalism rewards assholes the most…

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