Canada

I was so disappointed to hear he folded so quickly on the surcharge. Trump himself has said that America doesn't need Canada's energy at the start of his trade war. If Doug had a spine he would have put that surcharge on until a new deal has been signed. That deal should have conditions that the surcharge will come back and could increase if America wants to start the trade war back up.

Lets not play his game of flipping and flopping every few days and making big headlines, instead lets make a decision and follow through with it.

He backed down and had talks with US officials. Now that Trump has shown that the talks didn't accomplish anything Ford might be more inclined to hold his ground next time.

I don’t think Ford backed down. He said he would retaliate…then Trump changed his threat (backed down). Seriously, we don’t want a full on tariff war. Just because the Canadian government isn't broadcasting: “WE JUST GOT A DEAL WITH BLAH, BLAH, BLAH”, “WE NOW ARE GOING TO DEAL WITH JOE BLOW!”, “WE ARE THE BEST!!!” This doesn’t mean we aren’t working on separating from the US, and working on other trade deals. Mark Carney is experienced and skilled in global economics. (He advised the UK against brexit). I am a firm believer in education and experience. Elbows Up! But don’t be too quick to invite a trade war.

They are already inflicting much pain on their users (had a ford "fuckus").

Because it takes years to build manufacturing capacity, and the tariffs are going to hurt US citizens immediately. Also, the tariffs aren’t just on cars, they’re also on metals and Chinese imports, so companies are going to have to pay extra to import raw and refined materials as well as tech goods that we don’t mine or make ourselves.

That’s a reason these knee-jerk tariffs are so stupid. He just waves a magic wand and declares something and then it’s someone else’s problem to deal with, no guidance, no assistance; he can throw blame around to say it’s not his fault when shit doesn’t work. It hurts the US citizens a lot, will harm markets, retirements, as company profits are impacted, and is just generally a shit idea. The right way would have taken years, incentives, and loans to industry to shore up US manufacturing, but those greedy fucks usually just soak up the money and shrug their shoulders without actually improving much. Now they get to suffer, too.

He talks tough, but will go 'buk bok' as soon as Trump turns in his direction. F'ing pisses me off.

I think ford is an opportunist before all else. Whatever he thinks, in the moment, will score him some points, he does.

This trade war opportunity was perfect for him, because bullying comes naturally, and a lot of Canadians wanted to hear some snark thrown back at the cheeto president.

But the longer it goes on, the more it becomes clear that "let's hurt some Americans" is the entire plan, and it's not actually all that helpful.

Absolutely, we need to end the anti jailbreaking laws that allow US companies to extract rents from Canadian customers.