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I am unsure whether to buy the M4 Max Max Studio with 128GB ram and 500GB/s bandwidth or M1 Ultra Mac Studio with 128GB ram and 800 GB/s bandwidth.

The Max costs 4400€ The Ultra costs 3500€ second-hand

What would you buy? I am not going to use it only for LLMs but for coding, machine learning, gaming.

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[–] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Bandwidth is key. Refurbished macs from the store are the best thing going surprisingly.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The community consensus is that bandwith is key. An extra 300gb/s is a big bonus.

Your taking a small amount of risk with second hand but generally laptops will last a good long while and an extra thousand or so off for a better performing product is a decent deal IMO. Ive been using my second hand laptop for over a decade now, so I would probably be biased to take the dice roll on used after testing it out in person.

I hope it works out for you! Man I wish I could get my rig upgraded on the cheap but GPU market is insane. I wonder how the nvidia digits or and strix will compare to a Mac?

[–] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

They're looking at the apple desktops I think which have an even better history for longevity. Fewer moving parts and since they're generally at home plugged into a wall they live a less dangerous life than a laptop.

[–] intothesky@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah i was unsure whether the increased risk is worth it, but considering the lower price i think it is.

I think i am going to get it from refurbed.it