Don't play Brilliant Diamond, play Platinum instead, it's much better in every single way.
You can use an emulator to get it up and running quickly.
As far as Sun vs Ultra Sun, I think most people prefer the original but I've never played them.
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Can you tell me why platinum is better? I’m genuinely clueless.
BDSP was a terrible remake that was farmed out to a random porting studio. It's one of the lowest effort remakes I have ever experienced.
One of the biggest issues is BDSP added modern EXP share where all your pokemon gain EXP every battle.This caused a huge problem for BDSP because they didn't re-balance the game to account for you gaining much more XP than the original developers expected. The game is completely trivial because you become unreasonably over-leveled when playing through the game normally.
Platinum also added extra content to gen 4 beyond the original Diamond and Perl. None of this content was added to the remaster. If you are wanting to play gen IV and have hardware that can run it, Platinum is the best choice.
Thanks! One of my complaints about Pokémon is that it’s too easy. That alone will push me to platinum.
BDSP are 1:1 Unity remakes of diamond and pearl, for better or worse. Platinum just had some small quality of life upgrades and both the legendaries.
Also, BDSP aren't made by Pokemon Company, I enjoyed the games but artistically it's just not Pokemon. If you told me BDSP was a fan game, I'd believe you. It's cool to see a 3d chibi take of Pokemon but I love the art direction of the DS games far more.
Platinum had a lot more than small upgrades, it's just easy to forget how much of gen 4 comes from platinum.
Platinum came out a year after Diamond and Pearl, it made a lot of changes to the games. From the top of my head these are the most important ones:
- Expanded Pokedex from 151 to 210 or so pokemon.
- Revamped team galactic, changes their bases' looks and adding tons of dialogue.
- Gym leaders, galatic leaders and elite four have improved teams due to the added pokemon.
- Improved sprites although this doesn't really matter at this point.
- Added trainers that follow you and turn areas into pure double battles for a while.
- Improved the big showdown with team galatic and gave Giratina a role in the story.
Thanks! You have convinced me to play platinum over the switch releases.
No problem!
I've consistently heard that the gameplay fixes of Ultra make the game objectively better, however they make some weird ass story changes that ruin the story of a very dialogue heavy game.
About SuMo and USUM, I played both as they came out and thought it was really fun seeing the differences in story, from the middle on it becomes like two entirely different games, if you are a fan I would recommend both. If I had to choose, I would say USUM is the more complete game, has more content and side content, more story and even an interesting post game story that is definitely worth playing for any fan of the older games, and I am legit surprised seeing people talk about SuMo being preferred because my experience with everyone I talked about this has always been people preferring USUM.
About BDSP, biggest complaint is how they remade the old games but did not do almost anything new to it, didn't even add the extra story from platinum which makes platinum be a more complete experience than even these remakes. They're fine but underwhelming.
So if you only want one, I'd say USUM. If you are considering all and deciding on the order, I'd say SuMo, then BDSP to take a little break, and then back to USUM.
I started playing ultra sun last night and played more this morning.
It has just enough challenge at the start and I hope it carries over through the rest of the game.
With some of the games you can mindlessly bash the same attack, but so far I’ve had to thinking a bit about how to win a few fights.
Really enjoying it.
I also didn’t expect this graphics to be that good, I was expecting something like the de games.
The only thing that stood out was that I only liked one of the starters and thought the other two were terrible. Can you guess my starter?
Most people seem to like owl boy more than the others, so much so he came back in legends arceus, so my guess would be that.
Really? I didn’t care for the owl. I really liked the cat. Litten might be my new favorite Pokémon. But I’m not 100% sure on that.
Easily my most liked starter since charmander.
The others already answered your question, but since you said you thought pokemon games were too easy and you have a steam deck in other comments, I would recommend Pokémon reborn. It is a free fan game on PC. I play it on my steam deck and it is great for it. Just takes a bit of setup and configuration.
That game is challenging if you want something difficult. You really need to plan out your approach as only brute force attack moves will get you nowhere unlike brute forcing a normal Pokémon game.
Do with this information what you must.
Thanks! This might be what I am looking for in regards to a challenge. I have the site open, I will check it out in a few moments.
I'd play Pokemon Platinum. Being able to still hack the events like Darkrai or Shamin (one of my favorite Pokemon events ever) is a huge benefit for the older games.
I'd say get ultra unless you care about deep Pokemon lore. The gameplay in the ultra games is just objectively better. Small QOL stuff like Emerald vs RS, but it's still just simply better in some ways. However ultra changes the stories of the games for the worst, like it just doesn't make sense at all.
I started ultra Sun last night and have been enjoying it a lot. I havn't gotten too far, just the first city.
I am trying to collect all the totem stickers, but I am not sure if they are important.
I've played both Diamond and Brilliant Diamond. To be honest, I don't get where the hate is coming from for BD. It's got a ton of quality-of-life changes compared to Diamond. If you had the choice between the two, I would certainly recommend BD, especially if you're used to the the QoL from the newer Pokemon games. Whether or not BD is worth the money is a separate question entirely... but at least that can be solved by consulting some online "vendors," if you catch my drift
As for S/M and US/UM, what I've heard is that S/M has a more coherent story. US/UM apparently chose to abandon the story near the end and shoehorn in an incoherent ending, with the intention of using the new ending to build up a stronger post-story game. The choice boils down to whether you care about the story more or whether you care about the post-game content more
Well either way I’ll play on the steam deck, so not needing to switch between screens in a plus for brilliant diamonds.
In regards to s/m and us/um. What if I just want to beat the elite four which would you recommend? I’m not sure I care about the store or the post game content. I’m not even sure what post game content is, so maybe I’d care, but probably not.