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A notable mention is https://ubports.com/en/ which is different from postmarketos in a sense that ubports uses old kernels with heavy patches. That means: good support for things, but difficult future.

PostmarketOS uses the newest kernels and tries to integrate their patches into mainline kernel, so that the reliability is maintained with all kernel developers.

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[–] Pondis@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I am sorely tempted, but its unlikely my banking apps and very specific work 2fa app is anything but Apple and Android compatible. I am almost at the stage of getting a second phone for day to day, and keeping my old for specific apps

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 9 points 4 days ago (5 children)

You should consider changing bank if they don't provide a regular website with at least the same functions as their app.

Most banks these days need their app as well to log in to their website because of forced two factor authentication

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[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 156 points 5 days ago (24 children)

I can't wait for Linux phones to be stable enough for a daily driver.

[–] CHKMRK@programming.dev 43 points 5 days ago (3 children)

2026 will be the year of the linux phone

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 days ago

Please stop. I can’t get my dick back into my trousers.

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Given that Win10 is getting deprecated this year and Win11 has specific hardware requirements, I think 2025 could be the year of the linux PC. I'll be curious to see how massive corporations for which this would mean millions or billions in hardware upgrades to stick with Win will square that circle.

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 7 points 4 days ago

Enterprises just lease desktops / laptops and replace them with the latest version of Windows... my team used to be after reasons to get the latest OS / laptop, now IT have to prise them out of their hands

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[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 44 points 5 days ago (1 children)

that has been said since before the nokia n600. lol

And we'll keep saying it until we get there.

[–] airglow@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The FuriPhone, which runs the FuriOS Linux distribution (based on Debian), has a polished enough user experience that it can be used as a daily driver by many people.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I somehow only recently saw this (few weeks ago) but man it looks awesome. I'm curious how well the android layer works as I haven't used waydroid in a long time.

It's not cheap enough to take a lark on is my only qualm.

[–] airglow@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Here's a demonstration of Waydroid on FuriOS and the accompanying blog post from 6 months ago. I'm obviously not a fan of X (Twitter), but the video shows that the app works in the Android container.

Yes, I also hope to see the price go down.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

It seems like Linux-compatible android handsets stopped around 2021. Except a few bespoke models that are hard to get your hands on outside of Europe.

I have a OnePlus Nord N10 flashed with Ubuntu Touch as a tinker device, unfortunately in the US it's not daily-able because we shut down 3g and 2g networks and they still haven't managed to get VoLTE working on Ubuntu Touch yet (though it may be coming in the next year!) so phone calls don't work.

There's also the Pixel 3a/3a XL which are plentiful and cheap but I like the N10 a bit more because of the additional RAM. Makes it feel a little less old compared to the Pixel.

If you can get your hands on a Fairphone, Pinephone or Volla those are great but hard to get outside the EU.

[–] oshu@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Sorry but the pinephone is not great. I have one and its extremely underpowered to the point of uselessness.

Its like trying to use a 486 to as a current desktop.

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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Good luck, phone hardware changes very fast though.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 35 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I'm okay with an older phone, I just want basic features to work consistently and well. Maybe support a newer phone every 5 years or so to provide an upgrade path.

Basically, I'm okay with the GrapheneOS strategy of sticking to one product line.

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[–] Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago (5 children)

They are already. My Redmi Note 7 runs Droidian perfectly.

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[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe whenever slider phones with full keyboards come back. Typing in the terminal would be a real chore otherwise.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

just give us a headphone jack and removable storage and you'll have a customer for life.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't mind easily swappable batteries

[–] Ruigaard@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] ryukendo@lemmings.world 8 points 4 days ago

Government should make standards for banks to support different operating systems. Not particularly well known OS.

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 57 points 5 days ago (4 children)

give me ANYTHING that's open-source and not tied to google or apple. i don't care if it's shit. i'm old. i just need a phone and maybe some pics and browsing.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS is an open-source Android fork lots of people like, it's what I'm planning on using once I get a new phone

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago (5 children)

While I'm a fan of GrapheneOS, I think it could still be considered "tied to Google" both due to it being based on Android, and also because it only runs on Google Pixel phones. Graphene focuses more on security, then on privacy, but not so much on reducing our dependency on Google's software and/or hardware.

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[–] letme@lemmy.wtf 4 points 4 days ago

SailfishOS is fully functional and usable if you do not need any playstore-only apps. Even then they have now implemented microg in v5.0

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Phone functionality is the least of my problems, I need an open source replacement for Android Auto / Apple CarPlay.

Not sure how that would work, you'd either have to emulate it to talk to the infotainment system, or get all the infotainment producers to add an open source layer... Sounds like a nightmare either way.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We had the AUX jack but they axed it to sell earbuds.

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[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago

That was the purpose of MirrorLink, but I think it's dead now. I only ever saw Volkswagen support it.

[–] KuroNeko@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Be nice if Linux phones could be like how Samsung phones used to be before they started removing features to directly compete with Apple smartwatch markets. I don't understand how competition=downgrades because they wanna stretch features out to sell more products than how it used to be when both companies were all about being the One Phone That Does it All. I can afford the one gadget, always have and always will, but especially now when everything is so expensive I can only ever afford the Samsung A-Series not their main marketed S line.

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[–] commander@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Eventually I'll try one. I feel like it can be like desktop Linux where it take a very many many long years until it starts to chip away at single digit values of market share

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It's worse. Linux desktop is only possible because of the relative consistency and openness of x86 PC hardware. Phones are nothing like that. At best we will have retro Linux handhelds with phone functionality.

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[–] PussButton@lemmy.org 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I mean I've been using /e/os for a while now and it works like a charm!

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[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Can i play minecraft on it though? Ive got a horse ranch that I'd really like to continue

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 23 points 5 days ago

Java is inherently cross platform, and works well on linux. So assuming the phone is powerful enough, you should be good to go even if it's linux.

Definitely worth checking out Minetest/Luanti though, it has promise.

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