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[–] lefixxx@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

ITT people missing the point and projecting their own beliefs and values.

This is how people "strawman". It's easy to hate on atheists if you just see them all as their asshole members. The truth is that any group has their violent nutjobs and vocal minorities. You can't just say all Muslims are terrorists just the same as you can't say feminists are hateful crazies.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 100 points 3 days ago (16 children)

The best example of an asshole atheist they could find was one making a shitty anti-theist meme, meanwhile the examples of asshole Christians and Muslims are violent

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

CCP and USSR stamped out religious practice, but go off.

As an Atheist myself, don't delude yourself into thinking religion is unique in its capacity for horrors. Humans have that capacity, any group we make would also have that capacity.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I was commenting on the examples the meme chose to use. It implies they couldn't find examples of violent atheists

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

well you can find them on social media hating on women instead. a lot of early atheist youtubers went on to become gamergaters.

or look at a popular one like Dawkins who is busy being a transphobe nowadays. imagine being an atheist and wasting the remainder of your precious and only life trying to make the precious and only life of the most marginalized people in society even worse.

or sam harris who literally defended torture.

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Still. Putting Dawkins up against the KKK is a reach.

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[–] Sibshops@lemm.ee 114 points 3 days ago (18 children)

The bottom-left one for Feminists doesn’t fit. The others are things that were created by their own group, for example, the KKK was created by Christians. That Feminist meme, on the other hand, wasn’t created by feminists but by someone else to mock them.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 128 points 3 days ago (6 children)

And the "keep calm and hate god" was clearly created by a theist, not an atheist

[–] Sibshops@lemm.ee 66 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Good point. Why would an atheist hate something which doesn't exist. The whole meme is bad.

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago

Many atheists "hate god" as in hate the idea of a god. I can see atheist making that as a meme and I know some edgy atheists post that kind of shit all the time, which tbh is corny as hell.

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[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I vote OP take the meme down and repost it with Shiela Jeffries or Camille Paglia replacing the feminist..

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[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 81 points 3 days ago (6 children)

No atheist hates god. How can you hate something you don't think exists?

[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 32 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The correct word would be "antitheist"

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

People hate on fictional characters all the time though.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I guess you can hate god as a concept. God can be proven to exists in human minds (no esoteric stuff, just psychology and sociology). You can hate this scientific fact and what it means for humankind.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tbf, you can think god isn't "real" while also hating the concept of "god" for being responsible for so much war and division throughout history (among other reasons.)

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As much as I resent religion, I do believe it's fundamentally a human problem. People everywhere have a tendency to corrupt beliefs in order to justify being assholes to one another.

[–] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

100%

That being said, dogmatic belief systems, which tend to be common in religion, seem to act as force multipliers in this regard.

[–] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah especially if such dogmatic beliefs make people think dumb or unethical stuff is somehow okay.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 days ago

The Christian one should be a missionary actually helping people. Christian faith that only exists in church is a false faith

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
  • actually dangerous white supremacist

  • guy in a ninja costume with a knife

  • weird meme

  • completely made up stereotype

1/4: do better next time!

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Misandrists exist, but most are harmless. Social media just does a good job of amplifying them like all outrage.

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[–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And 'assholes' just appear at random? Nothing in these groups increases or decreases the asshole frequency? Imagine if we thought of all culture that way. Forget about progressive politics changing people's minds and thereby their behavior. "Some people are just 'assholes', what are you gonna do?"

[–] lefixxx@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Assuming the probability of assholiness based on culture is how you treat cultures unequally. You fight assholiness in the individual level. You can't change a culture like that. You can only educate people and they will change their own culture.

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[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

American war propaganda poster for illustrating feminism, that's certainly a choice

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Yeah and “we can do it,” until the men come back home and take the jobs back.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I dont get it, which minority am I supposed to blame for all my problems now?

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 44 points 3 days ago

Billionaires

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Unfortunately, they are no longer a minority.

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[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Terrible implementation of a decent idea, try again

There are in fact assholes of every stripe and it is good to be aware of those within your own "camps"

[–] frezik@midwest.social 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Prefer the Norman Rockwell version of Rosie the Riviter:

https://www.nrm.org/rosie-the-riveter/

The Norman Rockwell Museum are cowards. The photo crops out the bottom, where she's using Mein Kampf as a footstool.

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[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Is that Elon

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