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On Google if I search "Mens Boots" I immediately see lots of results from shops in Amsterdam and near me selling boots.

When I use DuckDuckGo the results are useless unless I add "Amsterdam" and then it only shows me Amsterdam results, instead of Google which would also show me shops from Germany etc. That has quick delivery times etc.

What are my options? (Non-American would be great)

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[–] Tieas@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I've been using Kagi for a near a year now and it's pretty good. Reminds me of old Google

[–] natecox@programming.dev 6 points 2 months ago

Kagi is a fantastic search engine, gets all the critical shit right.

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I understand they have gone deep into LLMs, so take that into consideration

[–] Rodneyck@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Kagi

Isn't it a paid service and ran by a Silicon Valley corporation...like Google?

[–] Tieas@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

Yeah it's paid. They have a good rep for privacy

[–] dave@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

Kagi has been amazing, I'm so disappointed every time I try to search for something on my work computer on Google.

[–] spacewave@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

IMHO there is no perfect solution for this, but I switched to Searxng (which can be selfhosted) and Im happy with the results. Please note that Searxng is a Meta Search engine, that basically means its using multiple other search engines with less tracking afaik...

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I would recommend the following:

I use SearXNG, which I self-host.

AFAIK SearXNG is an aggregator and Whoogle is having trouble with using Google without JS

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Replying to save this for later. I'm about to start on my own selfhosting project next week so I'll definitely add this to my list

[–] Parptarf@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Qwant has been decent for me. Try it out and see how it goes

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 9 points 2 months ago

In Spain I have to put .es at the end for local results.

However, I use Amazon to source the product I want then find the resellers website and buy directly from them.

My last purchase like that was an 80kg capacity bike trailer that was delivered from Germany and cost the exact same, and the company didn't have to give Bezos any cut.

[–] juanro49@scribe.disroot.org 6 points 2 months ago

For the moment, I'm using Qwant

[–] Tundra@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Here is a cool comparison chart I've found : https://searchengine.party/

[–] myster0n@feddit.nl 4 points 2 months ago

When I do your "men's boots" test, it looks like I get better results using Qwant, which is European.

[–] wosc@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Startpage works well. You also need a VPN and to use private mode in a browser with a low fingerprint.

[–] knighthawk0811@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

why not use more than one? use ddg for general searches of non location based things. then switch to a different preferred search for location based things

[–] Rodneyck@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Can't live without Presearch

Presearch is a community-powered, decentralized search engine that provides better results while protecting your privacy and rewarding you when you search.

[–] avieshek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Nothing beats Google so you can use European based Startpage just like how DuckDuckGo is based on Microsoft Bing.

[–] NIB@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just use ddg and for when i want to search something important, i just use Google(in incognito).

[–] KalSeth@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I thought it was agreed Incognito mode does nothing useful. You are still tracked.

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Incognito just doesn't add the history to your browser, the tracking is the same, correct.

[–] NIB@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

For tracking to be useful, it needs data from multiple sources. If it is a brand new incognito session, then it will only have the data you create from that search. If you disable Fingerprinting, it wont have much data and wont be able to reliably and accurately attach or combine that data with other data and accounts.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I am not sure why qwant seems to get mentioned so frequently. My experience is that the search results are mediocre at best and they shove ads in your face on every page.

I highly recommend Kagi, I’ve been with them since basically the beginning and they have been fantastic. I do pay for their service, but the value proposition is absolutely there.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

I've been fucking with kagi. And I like the results it seems more relevant to what I searched for.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Google works the way it does because it has basically unlimited resources. You will never find something that does EVERYTHING Google does, because running Google is like shoveling thousands of dollars into a fire constantly.

You have to choose either convenience or privacy.

[–] azha@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

I've been using Qwant its French and I've been using it for a year, it good and fast and private. Check it out.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hmmn. If I wanted search results for stuff in Amsterdam, I'd expect to add "in Amst . . ."

Moving quickly on, there's bound to be some European SearXNG. https://searx.space/ seems like a list.

I think that still uses google though among others. It's FOSS so you could self host it and set it up how you like I think too if you're into that type of thing.

I don't regularly use searXNG though I use DDG - so I cannot vouch for the quality of the results.

[–] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

i run my own instance and i can vouch the results are great for general things. searching for things based on location can vary though.