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[–] vistencluse@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

trick question, the hotel is infinite, so you can move guest 1 to room 2, guest 2 to room 3 and so on and have room 1 leftover for Sisyphus and his boulder, therefore he is indeed happy

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not entirely true.

There are conditions where an infinite hotel can "run out" of rooms. Veritasium has a great video on this. Here's the link because there's no earthly way a dumbass like me can explain it intelligibly with just words.

https://youtu.be/OxGsU8oIWjY?t=194

[–] gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 year ago

This would be the case if we tried to fit an uncountable infinity into the hotel. But there is only one Sisyphos and one boulder, so we can use the above trick

[–] brad@toad.work 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God damn this is a powerhouse of a meme

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] vaseltarp@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Sisyphus is happy. Instead of rolling that boring stone he can now go from room to room in the hotel and ask the guests to move on room.

[–] Froyn@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

This is a riddle of either a very good or very bad DM.

[–] dona1dquixote@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not familiar with the Grand Hilbert Hotel. What is this a reference to?

[–] crystenn@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

iirc correctly it's a thought experiment where you have a hotel with an infinite number of rooms, full with an infinite number of guests. a bus comes along with an infinite number of guests, can the hotel accommodate them? the answer is always yes and simply depends on how you move the current guests around in the hotel. it gets pretty convoluted so check out the link for more info bc god knows i wouldn't be able to relay it accurately

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert%27s_paradox_of_the_Grand_Hotel

[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] crystenn@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

rip in peace (brain fart moment lmao)

[–] whileloop@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's exactly right. Technically, the meme is incorrect though because the hotel can accommodate Sisyphus by simply asking everyone to move to the next room. The person in room x moves to room x+1.

[–] MothBookkeeper@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It said "may not," not "can not." The hotel may choose not to move everyone to a new room.

[–] whileloop@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You make a good point. Asking all guests to move in order to make room for one guy and a big rock seems a bit unreasonable.

[–] Skiv@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

You might be surprised how motivating a man with a big rock can be.

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The answer isn't always a yes.

There are conditions where the Hilbert hotel can "run out" of rooms.

Veritasium has a great video on this

https://youtu.be/OxGsU8oIWjY?t=194

[–] roon@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wasn't there a vsauce video about this?

Edit: https://youtu.be/s86-Z-CbaHA?t=6m47s

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago
[–] Kor@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sisyphos is an educated man as he is son of Aiolos and king of Corinth. So long as he accepts that there is nothing more to life than his absurd struggle, then he can find happiness in it, says Camus. He may be the ideal absurd hero, as his punishment is representative of the human condition: Sisyphus must struggle perpetually and without hope of success.

I think he happy no matter where he ends up :)

[–] raspberry_confetti@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

...no matter where he ends up :)

Stuck in middle management

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

The answer lies within the chinese room, surely.

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Hell yeah wouldn't you be?

I was pondering this longer than i should

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