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[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 13 hours ago
[–] gearheart@lemm.ee 11 points 16 hours ago

Dude is saying he can't be expected to smuggle him back into the u.s.

He didn't have any complaints smuggling him into El Salvador.

[–] Angry_Owl@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Dude read the fucking article and look at the pictures.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Sadly, you can.

Friend died recently. I know you can.

[–] Angry_Owl@lemmy.world -5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Please use a degree of decorum. Or better yet, take a break from the internet, go outside, meet some people, make friends and in general have human connection.

[–] Angry_Owl@lemmy.world -5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Shoo, little one, you don't belong with the grown-ups.

[–] ArtemisimetrA@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago

Classic and well-documented grown-up response. Goes on the shelf right next to "because I said so." 🤡

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is my theory too. He’s dead, and the administration doesn’t want to openly admit that an innocent man was murdered because of their racism.

[–] Angry_Owl@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

The current US Administration murdered Mr. Garcia.

[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee -4 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Let's start bombing shit. Or just killing folks. I fucking hate Trump but this is an American and other countries need to understand our citizens are not fair game.

[–] slinkyjelly@lemm.ee 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

you're probably on a domestic terrorism watchlist now lol

[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee -1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Because I've suggested America use it's military to bomb the literal fuck out a country that's not in Europe?

Okay, Sherlock.

[–] slinkyjelly@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

because an american agency sent them there in the first place so are you stating that we should be bombing or killing folks in america?

[–] ArtemisimetrA@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

Because you went straight to "let's blow them up" maybe?

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Why would they see it that way if your own government clearly doesn't?

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

He's Salvadoran. The whole thing is fucked up and wrong, but they didn't deport an American citizen. (Yet.)

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I bet he’s in this pile

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Did anyone actually think they'd let him see anything? Why would they.

I'm not naive enough to think he's still alive but that's beside the point.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Did seriously no one bother reading the article? There are pictures of him meeting with the senator.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Embarrassing yourself a bit here mate. There are no pictures of him in this article.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There are several pictures. Your adblocker's filters might be a bit too aggressive.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Van Hollen went to El Salvador to visit Garcia but was initially denied access.

Reuters published this article, the subject of this post, saying as much. There are no pictures of Garcia in this article.

My comment, that you originally responded to, was posted with reference to this article, before anything else happened.

A few hours later Van Hollen was allowed to interview Garcia. Various news outlets have published articles about that meeting and those articles include photos of Van Hollen meeting with Garcia.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Whatever, man. You clearly care about this more than I do, so ✌️

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think he is still alive. Bukele made agreements with the leaders of all the major gangs in El Salvador to get them to reduce violent crime. In exchange he gave some money and concessions as to how prisoners would be treated. If it comes out that prisoners are dying in CECOT, the gangs are going to treat that as Bukele breaking their agreement and violent crime will shoot up.

Even if he's still alive, though, there's a 0% chance he, or anyone else Trump sends there, will ever come out of CECOT while Bukele or Trump is still in power. It would completely undermine so much about their regimes at this point. They are using CECOT as the ever present existential threat against opposition. It's supposed to be a black hole people go into and never leave. They can't let anyone out ever or it proves that people can get out. They don't want anyone to believe that is possible. They can't let anyone believe that is possible or it'll breed massive opposition in both countries.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Bukele made agreements with the leaders of all the major gangs in El Salvador to get them to reduce violent crime. In exchange he gave some money and concessions as to how prisoners would be treated. If it comes out that prisoners are dying in CECOT, the gangs are going to treat that as Bukele breaking their agreement and violent crime will shoot up.

This agreement makes no sense. Nobody ever leaves CECOT alive so what are these gangs supposedly gaining by agreeing to this?

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Nobody ever leaves CECOT alive so what are these gangs supposedly gaining by agreeing to this?

Loyalty from the gang members still inside.

Amazingly, gang leaders are very often able to operate even while in prison. And of course, there's possible hits inside of the prison system that need to be "taken care of" by members inside.

Prisons are just an extension, basically, for gang life.

I take one issue who you're replying to: Violent crime will go up, but first, there will be massive dollars on Bukake's head.

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Tbh this is a less bad outcome than I was concerned this was going to have (after letting him in to the prison: “Uh oh, looks like your president thinks you’re a gang member. You can just chill here forever.”)

[–] Ickabod@lemm.ee 113 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That dude is dead. They are hiding it

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 198 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Yeah that man is in pieces already

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sadly, I don’t think he’s ever going to be seen again, I hope against hope that I am wrong, but that he is no longer alive is the only reason I can think of that would make them not only refuse to allow anyone to visit, but deny him passage home.

[–] oppy1984@lemm.ee 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Him being dead wouldn't be the only reason. If he's allowed back to the U.S. he'd be subject to our laws about treatment of prisoners and there's a good chance he would get word out about how bad it is in that south American concentration camp. They know they can't let that happen.

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