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A big one for me is Microsoft office (desktop), Libreoffice and other FOSS alternatives just simply don't come close, and feature wise are 20 years behind. Especially since I basically mastered MS office 2007+'s drawing features, which the FOSS alternatives don't replicate very well.

And of course Microsoft loves to push Office 365. I don't pay for that and just use desktop office, but Microsoft prefers you don't know that you can do this.

And I'm going to get shit on by Lemmy big time for this but while Linux is great and has made vast improvements in recent years, I still use Windows, not only because of MS office, but because a lot of games tend to only support Windows. I know that wine and proton exist but they're not perfect and don't feel quite the same as running native.

I wish an operating system existed with a hybridized Linux and clone NT kernel (using code from FOSS Wine and ReactOS of course) so that the numerous back catalog of NT software can run similar to as intended while also interacting with Linux programs better and using a shared environment. Since it would probably become vulnerable to viruses for windows as well, maybe? (my programming knowledge is extremely rusty) an antivirus similar to Windows defender is bundled with the operating system. Hopefully if someone makes such an operating system it can be a Windows killer and would switch immediately

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[–] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (8 children)

3D CAD software. There are a few options out there (FreeCAD, LibreCAD, etc) and Blender is a thing that exists for more artistic 3D modeling. But they simply don't hold a candle to the features and capabilities of the paid packages, which typically have costs in the 4-to-5-digit range. And I'm not talking the crazy high-end simulation options - those I understand, they're hard - but basic modeling features.

Hell, I'd even settle for a CAD package that had some solid basic features and had a reasonable purchase cost. Unfortunately the few providers have the industry by the throat, and so your options are "free but terrible" and "you need a mortgage to use this".

[–] astrsk@fedia.io 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I grew up learning organic modeling in blender and ever since I got a 3D printer, it’s just been so easy to make things with it as opposed to learning CAD. I’m getting better thanks to OnShape and FreeCAD 1.0 but I keep finding myself going back to blender because “it just works” once you understand how to setup scaling and snapping for manipulating vertices. Basically just setup your world measurements to metric and scale it to 0.001 and then every unit will be 1mm (helps me work within the 250^3mm space of my print bed, mentally) and export as stl.

There’s even a 3D printer toolbox add on that lets you analyze and fix problems like manifold edges and additional mesh tools like manifold extrude that speed up the process for good quality parts. CAD’s biggest advantage is the non linear history editing which is super powerful but you can definitely do non-destructive editing in blender using modifiers that only get applied at export time so you even have a functional equivalent if you’re organized and plan ahead a little.

I guess what I’m saying is, blender is amazing software and absolutely capable as a workhorse for 3D printing. You’re right that the multi-digit costing proprietary software is leagues better for designing digital parts and assemblies but blender is extremely flexible and not just for the more artistic side of things, you can make extremely technical parts with blender.

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[–] clonedhuman@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'd love to see a user-friendly, easily-implemented FOSS alternative to the entire Android system.

The options that exist now often can't get past all the defenses that Android and phone manufacturers put into systems to secure their own data collection/revenue. I have an older Motorola phone that I literally can't install another operating system on.

We desperately need a stable, user-friendly, and hardware-adaptive replacement for Android. I don't want that shit on my phones any longer.

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A manufacturer phone pre-installed with LineageOS would be awesome.

[–] ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pixel + GrapheneOS is a dream.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And they're even working on releasing phones that come with GrapheneOS preinstalled

[–] timmytbt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Who is? Google? Don’t know if I’d be able to trust that

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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The GrapheneOS team is working on finding a suitable OEM that would be able to release flagship hardware with security comparable to a Pixel, and GrapheneOS preinstalled.

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[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

You might be interested in postmarketOS They try to mainline older Android devices. It works pretty well on the PinePhone, too.

As far as I understand, the hardware-adaptive part is difficult to implement because ARM systems do not have automatic hardware detection like x86/x64 PCs do, so the hardware list (tree) has to be known for each device, that hardware is mostly proprietary and requires proprietary drivers. All of which results in Android phones using different per-phone-model kernels.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

A big one for me is Microsoft office (desktop), Libreoffice and other FOSS alternatives just simply don't come close,

What, exactly, is missing? MS Office pretty much peaked, feature-wise, in like 2003 (or, arguably, 2007), and LibreOffice is ahead of that. I also find the workflow to be closer to "classic" Office and, to a slightly lesser extent, WordPerfect, which I appreciate.

You can even give LibreOffice the ribbon menu if you want (it's in preferences somewhere). The default button icons may be rough (though recent versions have improve), but you can even customize those.

[–] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

MS Office pretty much peaked, feature-wise, in like 2003 (or, arguably, 2007

For me it's Office 2000. The flat UI is so efficient and yeah, there isn't any features missing that I've encountered. Takes no resources to run and works the same if you're on Windows 95 or 10. My family members still get me to install it if they get a new computer. It is also free to download from the Intetnet Archive.

I use LibreOffice for the most part because I'm on Linux.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think Windows 2000 was the last Windows version I actually liked. It went downhill from there until 8 when I finally jumped ship for good. If I recall, Office 2003 was pretty close to Office 2000, just not as "flat". I'm just more familiar with 2003 since I had it on my own PC and only used Office 2000 in the labs at school (so I could be mistaken).

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[–] palarith@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

File compatibility with official office.

Corp world and gov still needs to send word docs around.

We are 95% there. But formatting gets munted between them

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I do that already and have for years...? .doc and .docx work just fine.

Edit: The only issue I've had is one place requiring a specific font of all things. Was able to just install a free version of that, and was all set.

[–] palarith@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah. I always get complaints that formatting is off

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago

The entire phone-based ecosystem.

[–] rodneylives@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

I'm sorry but... 20 years behind? What new features has, say, Word even offered in the past 20 years beside that damn ribbon?

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

huh, i much prefer libreoffice to msoffice, i can't even think of a reason why anyone could prefer msoffice.

Im a but gobsmacked at the notion.

what do you use the drawing for?

[–] VirusMaster3073@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

memeoffice.

didn't think msoffice would be the easiest platform to build memes/diagrams on.

I actually didn't even know office could build something that complicated.

thanks

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It might be able to do it but it's absolutely the wrong tool for the job. That's Adobe Illustrator territory for sure and maybe inkscape can do it (not familiar enough with it to be able to say) but vector art creation tools are what you really want for this kind of thing.

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[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

The only thing I can think of that Word does better, is making equations. LibreOffice works ok, but it's more clunky. I still use it over Word because it runs much faster on my PC

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Business Accounting software under FOSS is abysmal. Poor quality, poor documentation, poor functionality, limited locale support and limited local support.

CAM software under FOSS is limited to three axis at best, but most is two and a half axis.

Office functionality is covered with LibreOffice. Your assertion that it's 20 years behind is in my experience not based in fact.

Source: I've been using FOSS for over a quarter of a century.

[–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Came here to say this. I hate paying for QuickBooks while giving them access to my business finances..

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've been using Plain Text Accounting for the past two years and have mostly enjoyed my experience. I've found hledger both well documented and well supported. I don't know the space very well, so which applications and/or packages have you tried?

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Plain text accounting (and all the variants) sounds great, right until you need to use it to generate invoices, or depreciate assets, or do a monthly Business Activity Statement, or convert a currency, track repayments, etc.

All of those things require that you write software to achieve that, which means that now instead of solving problems and writing software for my clients, I'm burning hours writing software so I can run my business.

Even if I did that, I'd have no way to validate the processes, short of becoming an accountant.

GNUcash, held up as an example by anyone you ask has no documentation for importing data, has no sample company datasets, has no Business Activity Statement, continues to prefer using an XML file as a database and is unreadable on a 4k monitor.

Kmymoney is fine for home users, but specifically not for business.

Odoo, Adiempere, ERPnext and the six or so other ERP tools have poor or non existent documentation, same issues as GNUcash in relation to data and import, and have a poor track record in solving basic issues that are completely unacceptable in a business setting. For example ERPnext didn't do currency fractions properly (ERPnext uses Centavo instead of Cent for the USD fraction: https://github.com/frappe/frappe/issues/13445, took 13 months to fix).

Last week I evaluated Apache OFbiz. It looks like a product from 1995, and trying to find anything is impossible. For shits and giggles, try setting the global date format to yyyy-mm-dd. There are three different repositories and the Docker installation instructions don't even bother to include which one to clone in which order. It starts at: "run the docker build command". Not to mention that it uses a database called Derby. I've been writing software for over 40 years and until last week I'd never heard of it. That's not something you want in business software.

I could go on, I've tested dozens. This is just from memory.

Why did I test all these?

Because I'm still running a 25 year old accounting package that doesn't run on current hardware, isn't supported, doesn't run under Linux and has all my data hostage.

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[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's amusing to me. Back around 2010, I used a lot of state legal forms that they only released as PDF files, but not fillable. It was annoying to print them and fill them by hand, and terribly fiddly to use the PDF annotation tool on the computer.

So I just used OpenOffice.org to create almost-pixel-perfect versions of the forms, with fillable text boxes, then exported them as PDF. Word couldn't do it at the time.

Now, at work, I use Microsoft365 because that's what everyone uses because of the site license. I wish we'd switch to something else, because Outlook fails so hard at basic email stuff.

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[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Adobe After Effects!! PLEASE DEAR GOD

This is the singular thing still keeping me using Adobe software. If this was replaced then I could be FREEE

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[–] Glitterkoe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Hmm, LibreOffice may not be the prettiest, but it works. For my own documents and presentations I use Typst nowadays. That's a blazing fast modern typesetting alternative to LaTeX. That being said, I can't stand WYSIWIG stuff but that might not be everybody's cup of tea.

I mostly run into stubborn manufacturers like Roland that only release their musical instrument companion apps for Mac/Win and leave Linux Digital Audio Workstations hanging.

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

MS Office isn’t better than LibreOffice and OnlyOffice, they all do the same task of making docs, spreadsheets, and presentations with very similar UI. It’s a no brainer to use the one that doesn’t bug you to use OneDrive.

Linux gaming has come a long way, especially with the introduction of things like Proton and popularisation of it by the Steam Deck. If you can play games on the Steam Deck, those games run on Linux :D

The main reasons (mind you, not only reasons) why people don’t just switch to Linux is:

  • it’s different (humans naturally gravitate towards things they are familiar with)
  • partly because Linux has a few things that are unintuitive to the average user (e.g. using terminal), but distros like Mint have mostly solved this issue
  • Switching itself is really annoying (I would say I’m in this boat, but I’ve installed Linux on my old computers and will definitely do it again if I ever get a new computer)
[–] ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I heard https://www.onlyoffice.com/ is good, but have no personal experience.

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[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

FreeCAD still crashes for me a lot, across versions and distros and different PCs. I just don't know what the deal is; maybe bad luck.

Then, its kernel, being the only truly viable open source one, is understandable but also has some limitations commercial tools don't, and I'm just talking about super basic stuff like giving up on a fillet or chamfer as soon as two vertices touch.

The workflow is much improved, as are the heuristics for user intention (yes, yes, the "crutches") and to mitigate toponaming, but I still get frustrated trying to use it for my stupid keyboard and other 3D printing projects. I have Alibre Design on my Windows partition, and with the improvements in Linux gaming (seriously OP, it's WAY better these days), CAD is the main reason I even bothered to keep my old SSD with Windows.

There are probably things I do at work in MS Office that Libre would have a hard time with, but frankly I just don't care. :-)

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Project management. There is one very good but old solution, open project is barely bearable.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I know managers who swore by MS Project (2007 I think?), and I didn't totally hate it myself. Haven't really looked for an alternative, but also, haven't needed to for the most part.

I wonder if it's just that project management has changed since then, and everything is all Jira/Kanban boards now? I think most of our projects have been laid out in Trello-like software and Git issues/tasks for probably the last 8 or 9 years.

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[–] zzffyfajzkzhnsweqm@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

MS Onenote. Nothing comes close to it. With stylus support etc...

[–] joshchandra@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have still quite literally found no other tool, even paid products, that can interior-crop the way IrfanView can (select row/column Y in XYZ if the entire image was XYZ, and crop out that inner part and auto-tuck X and Z directly against each other). And it's had this feature for decades, I think.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not exactly the same, but similar: when working with sprites for games, I often run into situations where I realize way too late that I need the size of each frame to be slightly larger than what I had been working with it. You'd think that having the ability to resize an image by adding extra padding to each individual frame would be a pretty common feature in image editing software these days, but nope. I ended up writing a small tool specifically for that just so I wouldn't have to adjust frame by frame ever again.

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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The only one I really miss is an NFC payments app, but a local LLM for Android that's FOSS would be cool too - PocketPal is free, but not open source or on F-Droid.

Also LibreOffice for desktop is great, but on mobile there aren't any easy to use ones in the same way Google Docs is, I've tried LibreOffice for Android and Collabora

[–] brokenlcd@feddit.it 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For local llm i think maid should do the trick, just load a generic assistant card. never really tried it though, my phone is way too weak to hold that up

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[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m with you on the “FOSS office alternatives are shit”, but unfortunately MS office is also shit. Google is the closest I have found to a good office suite but even that is becoming a bit chaotic and awkward. LyX is a promising word processor but also pretty awkward to use in its own way. I’ve got nothing, there.

As far as gaming, this sound less kind than intended but you deserve any shit you get for saying Linux gaming is bad these days. Apart from a few AAA games with anti-cheat where the devs just don’t want to, basically every game just works without any extra effort. Even obscure indie games. I can’t think of the last game I wanted to play that didn’t run on Linux, and often it is better under proton than Windows or native.

[–] pfjarschel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I made the jump recently, and although there are clear issues, I don't see any reason to use windows as my primary gaming OS anymore. Some games still require some fiddling with proton versions, extra command line arguments, environment variables, etc. That is bad for the average user that just wants to click play and play. Also, I noticed that at least on my setup (alienware laptop with nvidia gpu), some games have clear performance issues compared to windows, mainly some UE games. But it's not so bad to make me want to boot windows again.

And just some extra two cents: I'm still keeping a windows partition for those games that simply cannot run on linux, and it's possible to keep your main library on the linux partition (I'm using btreefs) and use that same library on windows. You just have to install a driver on windows, and it works beautifully. Haven't had any issues so far.

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