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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 99 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)

It's kind of integral to the function of enterprise?

[–] zerofatorial@lemm.ee 85 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The entire financial system literally relies on encryption

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lots of really critical stuff needs encryption, it's absolutely insane to try and ban it.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 4 points 2 weeks ago

to try to* ban it

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People lock their doors; everyone understands.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 12 points 2 weeks ago

wHaT aRe ThEy HiDiNg!!??!1?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 18 points 2 weeks ago

In China, basically every enterprise uses a VPN to get uncensored internet when needed.

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[–] adrian@50501.chat 77 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And backdoored encryption is just as bad as unencrypted, maybe worse, since it lulls you into a false sense of security.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Mathematically worse.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"After Salt Typhoon's hacking campaign targeting US telecom networks came to light last fall, then FBI director Christopher Wray described the phone company breaches as China's “most significant cyber-espionage campaign in history.” The intrusions, which in some cases exploited the wiretap mechanisms built into telecoms for law enforcement use, prompted CISA and FBI officials to go so far as to recommend that Americans use end-to-end encrypted communication apps like Signal and WhatsApp to avoid leaving their texts and calls vulnerable to China's real-time spying."

https://www.wired.com/story/chinas-salt-typhoon-spies-are-still-hacking-telecoms-now-by-exploiting-cisco-routers/

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Encryption should be no more a crime than locking your house or storing your valuables in a safe.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago
[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Encryption is not just not a crime, it's a republican virtue, those arguments usually used about guns, they are even better applicable to encryption. Encryption is actually a civil duty, because of herd immunity being damaged by people not using encryption. That public institutes' erosion we are seeing in the last decades - it's because the technological progress made the need for encryption to blow up, not accompanied with sufficient public perception. That erosion is a result of bad people having gotten orders of magnitude more information about everyone to plan their actions.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 9 points 2 weeks ago

They’ll send you to the Gulag here even if you didn’t commit a crime.

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's the Cypherpunk's Manifesto all over again.

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Who is the removed who would that encryption is a crime?

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

A fairly large portion of governments globally

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Encryption is not a crime *unless you’re doing it to someone else’s data to extort them for bitcoins

[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

They'll just make it a crime and pretend you were wrong all along. We're not playing by moral rules anymore.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Legalize it

[–] cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago

Encryption is like a lock, it has keys. Its like saying "All of you should provide a print of all your keys used in your home to the police, else how would we know you are not hiding a body in there?"

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 weeks ago

I believe in some jurisdictions it is in some circumstances a crime, yes.