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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

It isn't about change.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot more people than the DNC are blaming people for not voting Democrat & sticking us with this shithole administration. It was a huge no-brainer.

[–] BillyTheKid@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The democrats are objectively better for the majority of the population. Science has a liberal bias and all that.

What many of the dem leaders and commentors are missing is that's not enough. Blaming and shaming people online, even if you're right which as I covered you objectively are, isn't going to win the election. A lot of people voted for Trump because they feel left out and unheard. Maybe they should be, after all some of them hold dangerous ideas like climate change denial or think giving underrepresented people's a chance is unfair.

But that's just not enough. Being right isn't enough. Pointing out their idiocy only serves to entrench them and scare away moderates. You might say, not voting means they're dumb, right or wrong that comment doesn't help your cause. Being objectively correct didn't win the last election. Until the democrats acknowledge that optics are more import than correctness they're going to fight an uphill battle. A very steep one.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

commentors are missing is that’s not enough.

They may get that. Commenters are more often not the Democrats (their leadership, strategists, or establishment), they may get that, and they may think their leftist peers who couldn't work out 2 + 2 = 4 are a problem, too. Figuring their chances of reaching the DNC on here are remote, they may engage the last problem not as part of some Democrat strategy (which they aren't a part of), but because they're a regular human trying to reach their fellow, idiot human.

Addressing human failings may be a futile waste of energy but ignoring them entirely isn't doing much good. Some think change begins by holding ourselves accountable where we fail. The least we can do is try to be right. None of this is part of a party strategy: it's humans trying to get humans to human better.

You're right it's not enough, and those with power to do enough aren't. The problems with society & political culture are manifold.

optics are more import

It's more than optics: actions, delivering more effective government that noticeably eases our lives, reinvigorating local organizations & alliances that draw power to the party. A problem with Democrats may be an excessive concern with appearances & blanding their message so much to appease everyone (all purists) that it moves no one.

[–] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 35 points 1 day ago (14 children)

If you don't like trump and you didn't vote, then you're to blame.

My country has compulsory voting so nobody has an excuse

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[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Because DNC are controlled opposition.

Its never about what the majority wants. Its what minority wants. They are fat satisfied one percenters and the only thing they hate worse than a maga is letting the little people have a choice.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Not a chance in Hell Gavin gets it

[–] Kcap@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I still feel like the dnc is going to lean heavy into Buttigieg. He's young, an eloquent speaker, a sharp debater. He clearly is down to play ball with the dnc establishment as they want him to (stepped aside for Biden to get a cabinet position) , and they hope that he's baggage free enough (Kamala and her Marijuana prosecutions) that progressives will vote for him. Yes, he's gay, and the hardcore magats won't like that, but I think older suburban voters would rather have someone sane that's gay than insane and straight.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Then it will be 2016 all over again

Leftist leadership or the status quo are the options

And only the rich want the status quo anymore

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Democrats would rather lose their power "temporarily" than lose their influence permanently with a progressive.

We need a third party like four months ago. We are running out of time to challenge the standing democrats.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Whoever it is, they need to be charismatic and young (for a politician). AOC would work in that sense.

I actually think Kamala worked too. Her non-election was due to other reasons, mostly Biden's mistakes and that fucking assassination attempt. That shooter fucked up in so many levels, I hope he's being tortured somewhere.

[–] tankfox@midwest.social 2 points 23 hours ago

'assassination attempt'

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

Oh, I forgot somehow. Too bad.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Okay but the point is they should've been able to run a wet paper bag against Trump and win.

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