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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Cops don't follow laws? No way!

I like to follow speeding cops when they don't have their lights on, they are supposed to follow the posted speeds unless they have their lights on to indicate they are responding to an emergency.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Better yet, get their car number (which should be printed on the back) and lodge a formal complaint.

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I did that for a cop that was busy on their computer waiting for a left turn at a light. They didn't notice the 2 cars ahead had made the turn and noone behind them could tell or dared honk. I was beside them watching. They eventually looked up, I think we're confused because the cars were long gone so their autopilot didn't think "ok follow now", then slammed on the gas and then slammed on the brakes as the light had gone red and cross traffic was proceeding. I sent the car number, licence plate and description of the officer, as well as time of day, to the complaints number.

The response I got back was "thanks so much, we looked into it. Bye."

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 3 points 2 hours ago

It is still important to report each incident. They are supposed to keep records of this type of thing. They may well be keeping those records but unable to tall you results. If there are records, a long list of complaints will build up. Even if there are not, just enough people complaining will get someone annoyed enough to do something.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

“An Ontario city”

Odd phrasing. “Canada’s capital city”

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Even odder way to say "Ottawa".

Even internationally Ottawa is relatively well recognized as "oh the Canada place"