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A number of party leaders are frustrated that Hogg, who has a leadership position in the party, is pushing primaries against some incumbents in deep-blue seats.

Democratic party leaders Thursday morning admonished officers to not take sides in primaries, addressing a situation involving activist and Democratic National Committee vice chair David Hogg.

"Let me be unequivocal. No DNC officer should ever attempt to influence the outcome of a primary election, whether on behalf of an incumbent or a challenger," DNC Chair Ken Martin said in a press call. "Voters should decide who our primary nominees are, not DNC leadership. Our role is to serve as stewards of a fair, open and trusted process, not to tilt the scales."'

As of now, however, the DNC does not have the power to remove Hogg if he refuses to stand down on funding primary challenges through a separate PAC — unless the body changes its rules, a senior DNC official told NBC News.

“Under the present bylaws, there is no action that can be taken against David Hogg without changing to the bylaws to extend that policy of neutrality to all primaries," DNC Finance Chair Chris Korge told NBC News. "There is no codified, legal way to remove an officer for doing what David Hogg has done because it only extends to the presidential race. "

Korge said that, as of now, the situation is to be addressed at a future meeting, likely in August.

Korge said he believed it was imperative for the body to formally change its bylaws because the party division the Hogg situation has caused harkens to an old ghost Democrats don't want to revisit.

“It smells like 2016, when progressives said the DNC had it in the bag for Hillary Clinton," Korge said, referencing angst in the party that the DNC had its thumb on the scale to block Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., from the presidential nomination. "No party official, no officer of the DNC, should do anything that would result in the division that was created by the perception that existed back in 2016."

On Thursday, Martin went on to say he had spoken to Hogg about what he perceived as a conflict but he did not expound on whether he gave him an ultimatum.

"I understand what he's trying to do," Martin continued in the press call. "As I've said to him, 'If you want to challenge incumbents, you're more than free to do that. But just not as an officer of the DNC, because our job is to be a neutral arbiter. We can't be both the referee and also the player at the same time. You have to make a decision.'"

In pushing back on Thursday, Hogg cited Trump's power clashes with institutions in saying the party needed to take more aggressive actions. He added that he had not violated any DNC bylaws.

"They’re trying to change the rules because I'm not currently breaking them. As we’re seeing law firms, tech companies, and so many others bowing to Trump, we all must use whatever position of power we have to fight back. And that’s exactly what I'm doing," Hogg said in a statement.

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[–] KbSez@piefed.social 4 points 1 hour ago

such bullsh!t - Hogg sees they aren't doing their jobs, they aren't fighting and they need to go. Good for him.

This is the problem, these establishment Democrats aren't supporting the people who are willing to fight, they want to write strongly worded letters and consider legislation... those days are gone.

Jefferies needs to be thrown out, Schumer needs to step back or walk away.

I really thought Martin would be good for the party but I'm not seeing it

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

“Let me be unequivocal. No DNC officer should ever attempt to influence the outcome of a primary election, whether on behalf of an incumbent or a challenger,” DNC Chair Ken Martin said in a press call.

This is a position the DNC has acted contrary to for decades, and only decided they conveniently held when someone wanted to primary centrists. Ken Martin is not a departure from the centrist wing of the party's decades of self-serving bad faith; he is a continuation and possibly an acceleration of it.

[–] MJKee9@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Justice for Bernie!

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Summarized translation from political speak:

Stop interfering with out interference!

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 19 points 6 hours ago

Thus marking the greatest opposition democrats have mustered against anything this year.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 24 points 8 hours ago

We remember 2016 and 2020. Stop lying about not interfering in primaries.

[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 hours ago

DNC be all like:

[–] TheFANUM@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago

Fuck the DNC. Complicit pieces of shit

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 27 points 9 hours ago

FUCK the DNC. They helped put us in this mess.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 32 points 11 hours ago

"They’re trying to change the rules because I'm not currently breaking them. As we’re seeing law firms, tech companies, and so many others bowing to Trump, we all must use whatever position of power we have to fight back. And that’s exactly what I'm doing," Hogg said in a statement.

This man has a good head on his shoulders. I still think there are better ways to use Hogg's position and funding, but political leadership for the day after will also be important so I'm not too miffed.

[–] commitme@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

"Pipe down, plebian"

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 41 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Nothing surprising here but it is somewhat notable that the DNC response to activists whipping up enthusiasm and engagement among younger voters is to change the bylaws in order to stop them. Real pieces of shit, they are. Proven time and time again.

[–] commitme@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Making reform impossible is a very dangerous game.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 10 points 9 hours ago

Woah, there, enthusiasm?! Listen, buddy, we prefer our voters begrudged.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 24 points 11 hours ago

The single most important job of the DNC is keeping corporate candidates in office and keeping the money flowing. These fuckos have never been impartial. Anyone else still pissed at fucking Hoyer and the DCCC trying to get the progressive candidate to drop out of a primary?

From the above recording, Tellemann to Hoyer: "So before we, before we go any further on that, Crow is the favorite, in no small part Congressman Hoyer, because the DCCC not only put its finger on the scale, but started jumping on the scale very early on....I mean, it's undemocratic to have a small elite select someone and then try to rig the primary against the other people running. And that is basically what's been happening"

This was after the DNC had rat fucked Bernie, foisted Hillary on everyone, and lost to the serial failure, trump.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 70 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Voters should decide who our primary nominees are, not DNC leadership.

Tell that to Sanders, Clinton, and Harris... That's just recent memory...

🙄 🤡 🤦‍♀️

[–] electricyarn@lemmy.world 27 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They straight up told us who the nominee would be against Trump. What a fucking joke. "Democracy is in peril so we have to suspend democracy.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

In this past election, it's kind of a non-issue. Both parties have always had it in their rules that if the nominee drops out after the primaries, the party can select a new nominee without holding another primary. And to be honest, it's an understandable rule, at least within the scope of an overall shitty system. People generally aren't going to show out for primaries, then watch a nominee drop out, then show out for yet another round of primaries, and then show out for a general election. It's hard enough just to get people to vote once.

Prior to 2024 though, the DNC and DCCC putting their fingers on the scale to fuck Sanders and elevate Clinton is unforgivable.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 97 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

How dare he rock the boat when the current bunch are doing so well.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 63 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Hey man, we gotta be patient, the old guard is really busy doing absolutely nothing

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That's exactly the plan. Schumer has said out loud that the plan is to just let the republicans off the leash, let them sink their own poll numbers and hope they teach the voters a lesson.

That lesson, of course, being that you can put a Democrat in office to do nothing, or you can put a Republican in office and the democrats will still do nothing. These fossilized assholes need a solid kick in the pants. I would like to wish Schumer and his ilk a very merry get fucking lost.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 7 points 7 hours ago

the current DNC strategy is let the gop+trump do enough damage in the hopes that old guard dems eek out a win, any win will do.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

the old guard DEMs works with the old guard gop behind the scenes to get deals through, which arnt immediately clear to public. most europeans can see right through the performative politics of the 2 party system.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 30 points 15 hours ago

Oh c'mon! Insider trading, setting up offshore accounts and shell companies is work!

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[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 42 points 14 hours ago

Rebuke away, ya dumb fuck Dems. What the young Mr Hogg is attempting — funding primary challengers to the most empty-suit Democrats — might be futile, might not, but you gotta respect the effort.

"Wake up, wake up," he shouts at the corpse of the Democratic Party, which will probably wake up only long enough to smack him away, and then go back to sleep.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 75 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

Note that the text OP posted above is NOT the whole article!!
IDK why that isn't made clear?

Since last week, Hogg has appeared on just about every cable news show and digital outlet, advocating for a party reset of sorts — not just because it lost the White House to Donald Trump, but also because, he said, it lost faith among voters.

David Hogg is right IMO, the party needs a reset, and the platform needs a reset. For one: Calling themselves the Democratic party, they really should work more to improve democracy in USA! As it is they are not really democrats any more than people calling themselves pro life when in fact they aren't at all pro life. What they are is against abortion rights.

Likewise the Democrats have helped maintain the status quo, in a dysfunctional flawed democratic system.

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 38 points 15 hours ago

IDK why that isn’t made clear?

its a community rule not to post the whole article, so I posted some of it

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[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 62 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The outrage is telling. Hogg is making an effort to introduce fresh faces and ideas at the primary level. This gives Democrats a chance to choose which ideas they want to go into play in congress. That is all.

If those voters are happy with what they currently have, the incumbent is safe. If not, those new ideas go up against opposing ideas. If a plurality like those ideas, they get to see them play out in congress. The only risk here is that they lose the seat.

Since at the moment, he's doing this in reliably blue districts, the risk is lower than elsewhere. This is a recipe for real change in the Democratic party for the better.

The only reason to fight against it so hard (that I see) is the protection of individuals' comfort at the expense of the welfare of our nation. It's evidence of moral rot in the the party that is threatened by true representation of the citizens' needs.

I support Hogg's efforts - as long as he does not have the morality of "boss Hogg". (For the kids out there who have no idea of what i mean, find and watch a season of The Dukes Of Hazzard.)

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 7 hours ago

the donors control both the gop and dem , they are afriad they cant control the likes of future aoc, and BERNIES

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

The democratic party is very big on hierarchy and pecking order from what I've seen. They believe that being a long time party member should count for much more than being an actually effective politician or persuasive speaker. To suggest that the ancient corpocentrists should be even remotely threatened is tantamount to heresy. That's why they were so horrified when Obama "stole" 08 from Hillary.

[–] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 21 points 13 hours ago

Let me be unequivocal: No DNC officer should ever attempt to influence the outcome of a primary election, whether on behalf of an incumbent or a challenger

Hah, right. The more accurate statement would be something like

As a DNC officer It’s only acceptable to put your thumb on the RIGHT side of the scale

[–] Archangel1313@lemm.ee 37 points 15 hours ago

Democratic party leaders Thursday morning admonished officers to not take sides in primaries

Lol! This, coming from the same folks that would rather back Republicans instead of progressives in their own party? Fuck these people. Primary them all.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 40 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Lmao and they can’t get rid of him, I fucking LOVE that.

Sucks to suck, status-quo old-guard fucksticks.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

'Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary' - Karl Marx

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Sanders? Now that biden's not running anymore, age is disqualifying again.

AOC? Women suddenly can't win now that Clinton and Harris are no longer running.

Hogg? Welp, guess we suddenly like Marx and hate gun control. Until he's no longer a problem.

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