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[–] Beardbuster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A woman is one of those things where know you one when you see one. Doesn't have to be any more complex than that.

Like Jiminy Cricket said, "Let your conscience be your guide"

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[–] chirospasm@lemmy.ml 135 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Diogenes would be proud here

[–] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 86 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My first thought too.

To anyone unaware, plato defined man as "a featherless biped" so Diogenes brought a plucked chicken

[–] Una@europe.pub 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can't spell genius without Diogenes

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[–] deus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder how Plato would have defined man if he knew kangaroos existed.

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[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Why does it always come back to chickens?

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

Because they couldn't figure out what to make chicken taste like, which is why chicken tastes like everything.

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[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 106 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I find the phrase “Born with the intention” in itself worthy of head-scratching.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 39 points 2 days ago (13 children)

I think its meant sort of as physical intention aka the body doesn't have the ability to "hold eggs" (jfc) yet but will try to develop the capability in the future. A sneaky way to try and include infertile cis women but it still excludes many of them as there are various reasons for infertility. Interestingly the phrasing also excludes all women post menopause but that's to be expected given the amount of representation those usually get (the amount being zero).

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

One internet search later:

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/born-without-ovaries-634173

There are cis women born without ovaries.

Thus Lea the bigot is disproven.

[–] Netch@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bigots will just say they're not true women. That goalpost has legs.

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[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago

I think she already knew, why else would she mention the people born with the intent of holding eggs (whatever that means).

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

There's hormonal, chromosomal, and gamete definitions of biological woman/man and you'll want to be specific about which youre referencing and why it is even relevent for the text.

Hormonal woman with XY ("male") chromosomes and no eggs: Complete Androgen Insensitivity

Chromosomal woman with no eggs and low hormones: Swyer Syndrome (born without ovaries)

Men who have eggs: Chimeras, probably, and this guy: https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinese-man-shocked-learn-ovaries-202311718.html

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They said "without excluding" not "without including"

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 11 points 1 day ago

A woman is when a guy crosses the line. You say "Wo! Man!"

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That man is moments away from financial disaster

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

That man is 100% in Germany. He's fine.

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[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 2 days ago (6 children)

It is deeply confusing to me why people think they can define a word in a way that covers all it's meaning and no additional ones and make fun of those who admit they can't.

Challenge for anyone, define "to eat". Remember, you have to cover eating soup but not drinking tea, or smoothie. But obviously, that isn't everything.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is this the kind of picture millionaires take these days?

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 days ago

Or anyone from, you know, the rest of the world.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There’s a deep insecurity in recognizing that there aren’t “objective right answers” to a lot of things. Language is not a law, it’s a negotiated thing. Being a trans man doesn’t sunder me completely from the existence of living as a girl, and there are contexts in which my “assigned” sec does matter. The fact that abortion is utterly illegal in my state is just as harmful and terrifying to me as it is to the cis women I know.

These are people who desperately want to feel in control of the world, and the idea that they would not be able to put a person into a category based on their immediate evaluation of their sex makes them feel a loss of control. It’s attacking something of their ways of knowing, it’s an epistemological challenge that sends them reeling.

With lesbians - it’s the gold star lesbian types. They find joy in their identities as lesbians, which is great, but they treat penis in vagina sex as a contagion. It almost “horseshoe theory”‘s back into sounding like conservative Christians. They squint at some actually good critiques of porn and the way that human sexuality is marketed, and turn into a Holy War against the Y chromosome. This is not common - but it’s a very marked type of pathology. The TERFs are the type to actually be manhaters - to post things like “it’s a girl or it’s an abortion.”

[–] undefinedValue@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is that really common among terfs?

I’ve seen some truly toxic female tictokers where every second video is about how men are the worst and we don’t need them for anything and I was wondering how someone gets to that point.

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[–] T156@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (4 children)

"capability of holding eggs" covers the vast majority of humankind. Hands are useful like that.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 26 points 2 days ago

Welcome to the joke.

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[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Trying to categorize people into strict definitions for the purpose of determining their responsibilities without considering feedback from the people themselves about how they want to categorize themselves violates Kant's categorical imperative, also known as Granny Weatherwax's definition of sin as “when you treat people as things”:

The nature of sin

“There is a very interesting debate raging at the moment about the nature of sin, for example.”

“And what do they think? Against it, are they?”

“It’s not as simple as that. It’s not a black and white issue. There are so many shades of gray.”

“Nope.”

“Pardon?”

“There’s no grays, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.”

“It’s a lot more complicated than that—”

“No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.”

“Oh, I’m sure there are worse crimes—”

“But they starts with thinking about people as things . . .”

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

My understanding was that current consensus was that humans with ovaries are born with all of the eggs already created - waiting to be released - and no more are created after that. So you're either born holding eggs or you ain't, and intention and capability don't come into it.

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[–] themanfromoctober@lemmy.cafe 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago

Diogenes was the fucking man.

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