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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This type of abuse is old as the hills. The rights enumerated in the constitution only apply to citizens. Look at how wiretapping is done among the "Five Eyes". The USA just has allies do the snooping on its own citizens, conveniently dancing around the same constitutional protections. It's unclear if even under the most charitable reading of the constitution if this should apply to an unlawful foreign resident of another country.

Cruel and unfair, definitely. Much like the electoral college, everyone likes to complain about it while not doing too much. If you find the above distasteful, then it should be made clear in US case law that aliens are eligible for constitutional protections. Until then, Trump and co. will gladly keep doing what they are doing, because they don't care about "being fair".

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Bold assumption it won't be citizens houses. Unachievable by a competent administrative.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 9 points 4 hours ago

I mean they already are. They've been doing this since March.

The only reason we know is because one of the many employees within ICE who have been leaking information to the press in the hopes we would pressure congress to do their jobs, also leaked this.

If you know anyone in the conservative camp that's still blissfully unaware/not pissed yet, loop them in. Their voices are the most important when it comes to giving Congress one last try while they're still collecting paychecks paid for by our tax dollars.

If it comes down to us fighting we will have to join together anyway if we stand any chance. The next civil war will not be left vs right, it will be Americans refusing to follow orders vs. corporate billionaires controlling both public and private military (Blackwater, Palantir, etc.).

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 28 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

it was supposed to be a secret?

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Let's face it, tRUMP is such a narcissistic fool that the only real shocking thing about all this is that he didn't rage-tweet about it in the middle of the night whilst sitting on the toilet in-between faxing top secret documents to Russia and the Saudis.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Faxing top secret documents to Russia and the Saudis is what he was doing during Biden's term. Now, he probably just gave daddy Putin his username and password

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 3 points 3 hours ago

DOGE accounts keeps getting accessed from Russia, so...

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 31 points 12 hours ago

Welcome to the New United States of America, where the Contitution is no longer valid where contradicting King Trump.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Leela: You'll never pardon anybody because you'll never get elected president. The voters of Earth aren't the pea-brained idiots they were back in your time.

Nixon: Oh, no? Well, listen here, missy. Computers may be twice as fast as they were in 1973 but your average voter is as drunk and stupid as ever. The only one who's changed is me. I've become bitter and, let's face it, crazy over the years. And once I'm swept into office, I'll sell our children's organs to zoos for meat and I'll go into people's houses at night and wreck up the place.

Yet nixons head still seems less insane then trump

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 12 points 13 hours ago

I think about this quote daily as I read the news.

[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 45 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

There was a traffic stop a month or so ago where the city police were called by BP for assistance and they actually assisted them in kidnapping people. The mayor is pissed and says that can't happen due to our sanctuary city status (since 1986) and now the federal government is suing us. We have a HUGE population of immigrants from all over the world here as refugees and to attend our two universities and this is going to get ugly.

The head of C&BP is coming to my city this week because of all this. Something tells me ICE is going to be crawling all over this city the whole week and longer. BP already crawls all over the city because we're on the northern border.

I live in a HUD building. I see ICE searches without warning in my near future because of how many immigrants are here. My cane might be useful for more than just balancing me while walking.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

The time is now for sword cane.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 8 points 6 hours ago

Record. Obstruct. Defend.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Do not bring a knife to a gun fight.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 hours ago

It’s a modern world, we use umbrella guns now.

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[–] carrion0409@lemm.ee 37 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (12 children)

If they break in my house I'm gonna start blasting as if they were criminals (which they are). I don't play these games with normal people and I'm sure as shit not gonna play them with the plain clothes Trump gestapo. If anyone has seen Daredevil born again with the Fisk anti vigilante taskforce thats what we're getting but irl.

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 186 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

So Trump is telling ICE to break the law? It looks like Trump is guilty of another crime.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 104 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Who's gonna fuckin stop em??

They just arrested a judge. The only people who've been able to slow this roll.

What do you think happens next...?

The entire Armed Forces and Judicial Branch of the Executive is cronies from the Cabinet and AG down. If they feel like it they'll mobilize militias to do their work for them.

Citizen cops. Watch out. You may not hate cops now, but you'll understand what's been wrong with the whole system real soon. "Good cops" will be placeholders for men favorable to the regime. They will be corrupted.

Bribes will become commonplace in day-to-day business. This will often feel counterproductive. That's because it is.

Odds are this will play out quietly. Unless the Military does a surprise one, the Democrats aren't putting forward anything capable of challenging the regime. Sorry AOC and Bernie, I love you but Coachella ain't gonna cut it.

Build federated networks in your own life. The model applies. Organize horizontally not vertically/hierarchically. Find people making choices and doing things and help them.

Added predictions: the US invades Panama (again). Ukraine drags out. Recession settles in, staved off by markets hungry for short-term gains looted from Latin America, Ukraine, probably both. Probably around September a major bubble pops in the US stock market no matter what the tariff situation ends up being. Things get worse. Edit: Panama invasion may come as a result of this

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[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 148 points 20 hours ago (9 children)

This is the actual reason why there is a 2nd amendment

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If you thought overmilitarization of local police was bad, just wait until ICE gets tanks.

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Yes, I understand that the 2nd amendment alone can't stop a dictator if they have the army on their side... even though that was at least partly the intention when it was written

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[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 45 points 17 hours ago (19 children)

So if they break into my home, I can shoot ‘em, right?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 40 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Ethically, yes. Legally, they'll just kill you.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 points 1 hour ago

Legally? You can kill them as well.

You just have to claim that you thought it was self-defense against what appeared to be a black man jogging around your house.

[–] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 42 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, if the alternative is getting shipped to a torture prison in El Salvador with no due process? Not saying it's a good alternative, but it is an alternative.

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 6 points 9 hours ago

One of these options gives a person -and possibly their families- a chance to get away. The other option sends them to Salvadorian prison.

I'm not American but I know which option I would take.

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[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 100 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

ICE is a criminal organization.

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