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[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I get what they're saying but I think the "Paid for by the government of canada" might be misinterpreted...

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I know it took me half a second. Adding "poster" in front, or something would make in unambiguous.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 24 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

These Tariffs are not approved by Congress, so they are taxation without representation.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

That’s not quite what that phrase means, but I like the spirits

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 104 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (4 children)

It’s incredible how people just don’t understand how tariffs work, but believe an aging man with early onset dementia’s and wears a diaper.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 20 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Early-onset? He is 78

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 38 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

he's one of their peers, at least in the 'education department'.

"Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had." - William T. Kelley, Marketing Professor, Wharton School @ UPenn

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 13 hours ago

"This was a major, major thing with Trump — that people might think he’s stupid"

Lmao

That worked sooooo well for him. 🤣

[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 26 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Education ends after birth in murica

[–] ZeroCool@lemmy.ca 18 points 14 hours ago

Yep, Republicans have spent decades dismantling public education brick by brick and MAGA is the end result.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 9 points 13 hours ago

Education comes from the Fox News channel in 'murica.

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca -5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Can you explain it to me because I'd love to know more. My base assumption is if the US had a spike in food prices would they not dramatically increase interest rates, until food prices deflated?

Rising rates would then drop their current asset bubble due to a contraction in money supply. Hence it could be seen not to be as much a tax as it would be a large amount of pain for existing asset holders who hold nominally valued assets, which would mainly be the rich?

Another assumption I'd make is higher inflation would also lead to a lower unemployment and greater wage pressure, due to the phillips curve?

[–] BearGun@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm no economician, but 1. this price hike has nothing to do with inflation, and 2. Interest rates aren't used to bring prices down, they're used to bring inflation down.

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 1 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

The price hike causes inflation, as the tariff is passed on to consumers. Interest rates control the growth in the money supply, with less physical money available the velocity of money slows and prices fall, which causes deflation.

[–] RizzoTheSmall@lemm.ee 57 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Tariff charges are paid by the importer, not the exporter. Adding huge tariffs to Chinese manufactured goods can only hurt American companies who rely on Chinese engineering and manufacturing expertise.

This is a charge that American companies will have to pay and it is the people of the US who will foot the bill for additional costs.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I watched a 3 hour video the other day about how this has killed affordable PC computing in the US, and there's no undoing the damage now. The effect is on a time delay based on the material supply chain and will hit soon.

Reference: https://youtu.be/1W_mSOS1Qts

[–] astrsk@fedia.io 7 points 12 hours ago

Hearing it from real people running the real companies we’re used to hearing about in reviews or even being a patron of, really helps bring the reality of what’s happening front and center. Its also fascinating seeing the insulation of the larger companies like Corsair and how different but also alike they speak about the uncertainty of the future.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

It wouldn't matter who pays the tariff, the price would go up regardless.

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 18 points 13 hours ago
[–] bradinutah@thelemmy.club 25 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Thank you for running these, Canada! Too many of my fellow Americans are clueless about tariffs and how they are taxes that Americans pay. While the MAGA cultists are lost, there are many others who would have voted against Donvict Dementia if they knew what a tariff was back in October/November 2024. It helps now too because Republican Senators like Mike Lee and John Curtis need to be pressured to impeach donOLD Krasnov, for the benefit of both the States as well as our dear Canadian friends. It's appalling to see Republicans who pretend to be against unnecessary taxes supporting or standing silent on an issue that Republicans used to be solidly AGAINST.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

How does anyone with an IQ above 70 not know this?? Are these billboards really necessary? What do they think tariffs are if not for a tax?

[–] bradinutah@thelemmy.club 1 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 43 minutes ago)

I work with tariffs daily but there are tons of people who are clueless. I think if you quiz the average person on the street and ask them how tariffs work, most of them will fail to define it correctly. A surprisingly large number don't know it's a tax on the importer. A surprisingly large number don't even know it's a type of tax.

[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure my dead goldfish has a higher iq than Maga combined

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

It certainly is more cultured than them, at least.

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The Republican when they see this: "yeah but JJOOOEEEEE BIIIDEN!"

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

"Joe Biden immediately tanked the economy to enrich himself and his cronies!"

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

"The 'elites' are driving stock prices down to make Trump look bad. He's being blamed for Democrat fraud" or something along those lines.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

The response I have seen now is “but national debt”

…Has anyone looked at the budget?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 7 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Are these billboards in the USA or Canada?

[–] AZX3RIC@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They're at least in one US state because I've seen it while driving down the road.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

I hope this is a billboard on the Canadian side of the border that's pointing towards the US.

[–] cheeseburger@lemmy.ca 41 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Swuden@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

The fact that it says "Paid for by the Government of Canada" will allow them to shrug it off as propaganda and go "Why would Canada care so much if this was true!?". I like the idea, but I fear it might have an even more polarizing effect...

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago

Damn, they're putting up posters in regions known for their illiteracy.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 6 points 12 hours ago

It's probably IN the US. I made a post about one I saw a month ago. https://thelemmy.club/post/24183750

[–] NegentropicBoy@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That would be hilarious, honestly.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently these are real, but many have rotated out.

[–] cooperativesrock@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago
[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Hell I just got back from the grocery store a few hours ago. It's hitting already. Just from 2 weeks ago when I last went stuff has gone up.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

They aren't, though specifically for groceries, it's somewhat-less relevant for the US than Canada, because we produce a wider variety of food domestically.

There are some important things that we do import, which have been discussed on here, like out-of-season fruits and vegetables.

kagis

These guys highlight several fields:

https://www.eatingwell.com/foods-impacted-by-new-tariffs-11712453

  • Tropical Produce

the US consumes more than it has tropical regions to grow tropical foods in.

  • Seafood

  • Coffee

  • Olive Oil, which we mostly get from Europe. "The U.S. produces only 2% of the olive oil that it consumes"

  • Chocolate

  • Nuts (though IIRC we're a major producer of some important nuts, like almonds and peanuts).

Also, the foods that we're especially competitive in tend to be bulk, low-value stuff, grains and such, which is the staple stuff that you'd really need if prices went up. We tend to import stuff like luxury food from Europe, which is nice but something that one could live without if one's budget was tight.

One impact will come from fertilizer, which we import a lot of; that'll drive up our cost of production of food.

The fact that we're a major exporter of food is actually a major reason why you'd expect the agriculture industry to be unhappy with Trump, though agricultural states tended to vote for him. American agriculture is, by-and-large, globally-competitive. If it were uncompetitive, then tariffs might benefit it, providing useful protection from competition by forcing American consumers to buy it rather than more-competitive foreign products. And despite the lack of benefit, the agriculture industry likely does get hit by countertariffs.

The industries that will tend to benefit from tariffs are those where America isn't very globally-competitive in 2025, maybe low-skill, labor-intensive manufacturing, and that's where consumers are going to take a price hit from taxation. Clothing prices, for example. We're not very good at hand-producing clothing. Tariffs will cause those industries to be subsidized by transferring money from the industries that we're better at.

[–] PsychoNaut@lemmy.ml 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Your statement is only accurate if tire exclusively talking about the food being imported. American fertilizer ingredients and a lot of the equipment (or materials for the equipment) come from Canada and other countries hit by the tariffs. There was an article a month ago about how the Vermont maple syrup industry is totally screwed because all their equipment comes from Canada.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, I don't know if you saw it before you commented, but I did update my comment to include a mention of fertilizer.