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[โ€“] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 23 points 1 week ago

OSM is a great project. It's the basis for a lot of different tools and as such really needs to continue to be independent from American tech bros.

[โ€“] Wimster@lemmy.wtf 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That is great. Now include satelite images too please.

[โ€“] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 days ago

Are you talking about stuff like this? https://josm.openstreetmap.de/mapsview?entry=Hesse+DOP20

According to geoportal.hessen.de Hesse DOP20 is already open data and uses DL-DE->Zero-2.0 license. Though I donโ€™t know how it is in different states/nation wide.

https://www.govdata.de/dl-de/zero-2-0

These photos already look better than what Google Earth supplies and they get updated every 2 years.

And technically it surpasses it by far. You might notice that a lot of roofs look a bit weird and pixelated at the edges. They correct the position of high places to counter the camera angle. Generally the angles are also better than what Google supplies.

[โ€“] intelisense@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm more interested in decent travel planning for public transport.

[โ€“] Wimster@lemmy.wtf 1 points 6 days ago

Thatโ€™s indeed also very important ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Public offices would have to work with OSM. Right now they have exclusive deals with Google and actively publish their stuff to Google. Public offices should be publishing to OSM instead, but their citizens don't give a fuck.

[โ€“] albert180@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wrong. Most of them publish the data open source and/or provide an open trip planner API.

But OSM doesn't want this data as they are a map, and support only rudimentary frequency and line numbers.

You would need another project for this kind of service

[โ€“] j4yt33@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In Germany some public transport networks have their own apps, Maps always used to be the worst option to plan public transport in Berlin for example. So it should be possible, in theory

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

People living in Berlin and using opensource should request their public transport authorities to share the data with openstreet maps. I bet public transport schedules can be embedded into it.

If you live in Germany, @ them somewhere or send them an email. The more people do it, the more they'll find it important. If you are in a Berlin community, ask them to join in. A single @ or email won't convince them, but it's a start.

[โ€“] albert180@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In Germany DB Navigator is always better than Google Maps for public transport

[โ€“] j4yt33@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Whenever I'm there I always use the amazing VBB Bus & Bahn :)

[โ€“] intelisense@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Well, that doesn't even sound like it would cost anything.

[โ€“] bettertecheu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I get reasonable results from Citymapper and Mapy. HERE doesn't seem to know that buses exist.

https://better-tech.eu/search/article/maps/

[โ€“] huppakee@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm in the Netherlands and had better results from HERE than from Mapy.

I guess it's worth trying multiple apps for anyone who wants to ditch Google. We also have a local company (9292) who's whole business is providing public transport information, so you might not even need a map app for this.

[โ€“] bettertecheu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

NS also does a good job, so I have created this page: https://better-tech.eu/search/article/public-transport/

Now all I need is the rest of Europe.

[โ€“] huppakee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

This would definitely be doable but only if public transport companies publish their data because I don't see this happening if it has to be imported manually

[โ€“] les_dennis@lemmy.wtf 8 points 1 week ago