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[-] Alteon@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Socialized Democracy is a more realistic switch, as it works well with what we already have and makes positive changes to our existing society. A better voting methodology (vs FPTP), higher taxes on rich and businesses, and better checks and balances on our elected officials is what most people are looking for.

I get that people longingly look at Socialism with dewy eyes, but there's no world in which we go through a paradigm shift of that magnitude and end up without hundreds of thousands of dead bodies. China, Russia, and every single other country in the world would be putting forth their best disinformation campaigns to manipulate what comes forth from the ashes of our country. There is no good outcome from that path, as I promise you that what regrows in place of Democracy will not be the paradise that you envisioned. Unfettered capitalism is the problem, why not fix that rather than burning everything to the ground in the hopes that something better could come along?

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

You're confusing communism with socialism. I mean that's not the only thing being confused. But it's a big one.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago

Everything is burning now, exclusively because capitalism. If we make a concerted push for change, and gain enough traction that violence is necessary in an attempt to maintain the status quo, WE did not introduce the violence. Also, "we'll kill you if you try" isn't the strong argument you think it is.

People always act like revolutionaries wake up with a murder boner and start killing , instead of acknowledging that it's a response to extended oppression and violence from the state in the face of opposition.

[-] HowMany@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Capitalism exploits EVERYONE not profiting from it.

[-] WilliamTheWicked@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

You're not being super fair here, to be quite honest. Capitalism doesn't just exploit people.

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