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[–] Prewash_Required@sh.itjust.works 133 points 1 year ago

The TLDR of the article near the end:

"Once a woman has sex, there's really no limit to the pain that Republicans believe is her just deserts. Bleeding out from an untreated miscarriage, losing a job, delivering a baby to watch it die on the table, struggling to feed young children, being stuck in an abusive relationship: They understand perfectly well that these are among the likely outcomes of forced childbirth for women. But of course, making women suffer is, and always has been, the point. Ed Durr's only mistake was saying so out loud."

[–] argo_yamato@lemm.ee 107 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am always amazed any women are Republicans. Except maybe the moms for liberty crowd (aka klanned karenhood).

[–] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago

That is as perfect a description of Mom's for Liberty as could be imagined.

Peak

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 91 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meet New Jersey state Sen. Edward Durr, a truck driver-turned-politician who has a habit of saying the quiet parts out loud.

"A woman does have a choice! Keep her legs closed," Durr wrote in a 2020 Facebook post, in which he also called a pro-choice woman an "idiot." He also "liked" a post that called for "spaying women like dogs."

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that was wild to read. I can't imagine hating anything as much as the average conservative hates women. I feel bad for any woman unfortunate enough to grow up with a father like that. It can't be easy.

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can imagine it.

I hate the average conservative at least as much as the average conservative hates women, minorities, non-Christians, and poor people.

Because the intolerant cannot be tolerated.

[–] agnomeunknown@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But south park once compared being intolerant of intolerance to being like a Nazi, so checkmate you fool, you unbelievable cretin. I am very smart.

[–] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

If taking up this battle makes me a fool, then so be it.

I don't seek approval from believable cretins anyway.

I suspect I was born defective; too sensitive towards and with too much affinity for justice. And possessing a wanton disregard of my physicality in defense of the truth.

So be it.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They pretend to support hypothetical exceptions to abortion bans, which for the most part do not apply in actual reality.

I'm glad they pointed this out. Many Republican abortion bans will say they don't apply if the women's life is at risk, but they word it so vaguely, raise the penalties so high, and put the doctor's freedom in the hands of a jury to determine if the woman was "dying enough." The result is that women aren't given life saving abortions until they are actively dying.

Even if the fetus has such severe abnormalities that there's zero chance of a "baby" at the end of the pregnancy, the woman will be told that she needs to risk her life and carry it to term because "pro life."

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Yup, or if you look at rape exemptions it's the same. The victim is required to identify their rapist with harsh penalties for a false identification.

Particularly terrible when you think of the position this puts a child in with their family members. Further, those laws often require victims to submit to a rape screening, something that's hard to pull off given how underreported rape is.

And of course if there's any question the legal system will prevent an abortion forcing a birth. You can't wind back time and cases taking a year or more to resolve are extremely common.

[–] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

An Alabama woman was imprisoned for endangering her fetus. She gave birth in a jail shower

But over the next seven months of incarceration for “chemical endangerment” in the Etowah county detention center (ECDC), Caswell was denied regular access to prenatal visits, even as officials were aware her pregnancy was high-risk due to her hypertension and abnormal pap smears, according to a lawsuit filed on Friday against the county and the sheriff’s department. She was also denied her prescribed psychiatric medication and slept on a thin mat on the concrete floor of the detention center for her entire pregnancy.

In October, when her water broke and she pleaded to be taken to a hospital, her lawyer says, officials told her to “sleep it off” and “wait until Monday” to deliver – two days away.

During nearly 12 hours of labor, staff gave her only Tylenol for her pain, the suit says, allegedly telling her to “stop screaming”, to “deal with the pain” and that she was “not in full labor”. Caswell lost amniotic fluid and blood and was alone and standing up in a jail shower when she ultimately delivered her child, according to the complaint and her medical records. She nearly bled to death, her lawyers say.

So, jailed for endangering a fetus but not given prenatal care while in jail and forced to give birth in a jail shower when her labor signs were ignored - all of which actually endangers the fetus they are so concerned about. They don't care about the fetus, they just hate women and want to punish them for having sex. It couldn't be clearer.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You're off a few points...since she was at (or near) full term, it was no longer a fetus...it was an actual child. That being the case, the only real way to protect it was by assaulting a trans person or with thoughts and prayers.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They need to keep Boebert’s legs closed and her shirt on

[–] Narrrz@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

no, the trouble is she is now keeping her legs closed.

she was fine until she got it into her head to be a politician.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Umm. Well, she’s got her hand wrapped around a hard cock in front of children in public with her tits hanging out… so I’m not sure how accurate your opinion is.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why do people keep saying this? This never happened.

They got touchy-feely over the clothes. That's it.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/84ac7aea-ab39-4325-866b-e4579501c0a1.png

She wasn't jerking him off. Her tits weren't out. There weren't even any children in her section. Yes, she acted like a teenager in a movie theater and her behavior was obnoxious enough without having to go around and completely make shit up. If they had been engaging in the activity you described on camera, they'd be taking a one way trip to the sex offender registry.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m guessing you didn’t see the video. Either way—she’s not a teenager. She’s an elected government lawmaker.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, yes I did. I even posted a screenshot of the moment his hand was on her boob. None of what you said happened.

She did not have "his hard cock in her hand". She did not have her tits out. And there aren't even any children seated in the video footage at all. They felt each other up. That's it. Feel free to go through the video yourself and point to any moment where (a) her tits were out, (b) his dick was in her hand or (c) any children were even able to see that she was there, let alone what she was doing.

I'm not saying her behavior was appropriate by any stretch of the imagination, but there's a huge difference between "copping a quick feel" and "whipping your tits out in front of children while giving your boyfriend a handy."

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, you keep defending her, Republican slime. Oh sorry “centrist” 🙄

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You keep accusing her of things she didn't do. Point to me in the video that you cited as evidence exactly where either she or he was exposed in any way. Point to where her tits were out, or his dick was in her hand. Point to a single child that is within visual distance of her. As you and everyone who keeps making these claims says, it's all caputred on video. So it should be piss-easy to point out exactly where in the video it happened.

Or do you just prefer making false accusations and slinging insults at anyone who dares to challenge you?

Slinging false accusations is wrong, helps nobody, and just gives the other side ammunition to be used against you. This also holds true when the target of those false allegations is someone you don't like.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

Is it jerking off if she rubs his dick through his pants and he orgasms?

Is it jerking off if his dick is out and she rubs it but he doesn’t orgasm?

What is jerking off? What are tits? What is a public location? What are children? What is proximity? What is appropriate public behavior? What is indecent? So many questions, so little brain power.

[–] AnarchoGravyBoat@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You know what they'd have called him in Nazi Germany?

Herr Durr.

Fascist.

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Good good, his name is Durr the writers are clearly still on strike

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Durr, dduuuhhh Durr.. Durr 🥴 We should make him synonymous with idiocy.