I don't get the post. Is it created by an AI as well?
this post was submitted on 12 May 2025
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Bro really needed AI to say it was okay to not come in while sick?
Sure. Get well soon.
Done.
"paid leave"
Why do I feel like they are taken out of op's vacation days?
We aren't all Americans
Because they are? A lot of places don't offer sick leave anymore. Sick days, bereavement days, vacation days, all come from the source. It's really only Millenials and older who get sick days.
This just isn't true. For instance in WA we are required to accumulate separate sick time.
Many many many companies still use a separate sick time because they are willing to pay folks who are actually ill but aren't particularly disposed to provide much vacation time. This is extremely common in low level low wage jobs more so than white collar shit.
I assume you're talking about the US ?
Some places. It's different from state to state.
Kind of a nothingburger comment but until i saw your comment i didn't even realise that was possible. The fact this is acceptable, or even legal in the united states is absurd
Yeah fortunately I don't work there anymore and work someplace that respects it's workers. Took a lot of time, luck, trial and error to get where I am now.
Millennials get sick days?
Damn. I was wondering why nobody mentioned it, but it is so normal to you (plural), that you don't bother.
That's crazy. For me it's an absolute affront to even suggest I should give up vacation days for being sick. In my country Germany (and probably all of Europe, maybe also Asia) you get a slip from your doctor and you stay home till you're better.
Paid. And nobody touches your vacation days. I'm just speechless.
The US is a trash country. If you actually take time off to be sick we either fire you outright or sideline you for promotions so people prove how dedicated they are by showing up and giving all our coworkers communicable diseases like flu and covid. Most of them in turn then feel obligated to show how dedicated THEY are by giving more folks and the whole affair just slows down and gets more inefficient than if 1 person had stayed home.
When I was in the UK, you didn't even need a slip from the doctor, just told your employer you were sick and stayed home, because everyone understood it is simply better that way.
I can also stay home when sick without a doctor's note for up to three days, no questions asked. With pay and without using vacation days of course.
A doctor's note very well could be how it works in the US, none of us know because we'd be bankrupted by going to a doctor.
Same in latinamerica. The US dosen't even have the labor standards that third world countries have
I remember my company did this. We started with one week vacation, one week sick and they just made it two weeks pto one day
I don't work for that company anymore, now I work in a great workplace. But yeah, it happens.
Millennial here. Every office job I have worked has either had unlimited sick time or unlimited vacation. (Hourly contracting roles aside.)
lemmy dot world was a bad choice for this post. Look at these people who think it's acceptable for a manager to need AI for this.
Better to have a boss who politely approves time off via ChatGPT than a boss who gets upset about it
got their sick leave approved
still unhappy
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Sick leave approval? What is this. If im sick i dont need approval such an american thing.
Yes. We know that. Some of us Americans have been trying to tell the whole world how bad it is here for a very long time. Lobby for the U.N. to send the blue hats to help us if you actually care
could have just said, "sure, take the time you need."
instead of wasting 5 minutes and burning down a tree and a half.
Especially since the prompt couldn't have been all that much shorter. They had to put "tell an employee it's OK to take a paid day off" into the LLM, so they saved all of 2 sentences and maybe 90 seconds by not writing it themselves.
Opening chatgpt, copy pasting the answer into the email client probably took them as long as it would have just typing: "It's ok you dont need approval for when you are sick, get well soon"
Ah, but didn't you see how flowery and professional the result sounded? People like flowery, two-faced corporate lingo.
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Outcomes matter. Splitting hairs about how someone drafts an email is infantile.
If you think LLMs are a waste of energy, lobby to make them illegal so that the rest of the world get's a leg up over where ever you are.
Exactly. Over Mother's day, I had chatgpt take her out on a mother date of fun and... you know, whatever else. I dunno I wasn't there. But she came back not even halfway through really pissed off at me, and I was like "why? what is the problem? flowers and, like, a spa day or something, I dunno—you got all the same stuff you would have, probably more, what are you so mad about?" Some people, man.
Id rather the LLMs do the lobbying
Honestly, I don't see a problem with this.
Some people are just really shit with emotions. Me included. I just got no clue what to say in certain situations. I know that what they do is not an issue, but I just don't know how to tell them properly.
Using AI for this is a fair use-case - you want the person to not feel bad, and if AI can give you a better response than you yourself could, why not.
Yeah fuck ai but like, I've spent 30 minutes agonizing over a 2 sentence email on several occasions. I won't judge this boss.
Just as long as he knows what the AI is signing him up to.
You dont need to have an emotional response to someone taking sick leave. "Absolutely, rest up" is more than sufficient in 99percent of cases
"Absolutely, rest up" is more than sufficient in 99percent of cases
Internal monologue: "But wait, will it come off as impolite if my reply is this short? I better add something about how I'm sad to hear that they are sick. And maybe also something that I hope they will get better soon. Hmm... how do I say that without sounding like I expect them to be better soon-- that they can and should feel allowed to recover at their own pace? But, now it sounds as we don't need them at work-- I also want them to feel missed. Also, is there a risk they take 'rest up' wrong?, as if it is their fault they are sick because they haven't rested enough?-- I'd better soften up that formulation. Then, how do I start this email? 'Dear x,' seems too formal, maybe 'Hey,' -- no, that sounds like 'Hey listen up!'; maybe I'll just skip the greeting to make it feel more like a casual conversation. Do I still sign the email? With "Regards?", "Best regards?", "Sincerely?", "With wishes of swift recovery?" Should I also cut the email footer to make it seem less formal? What if they need to forward this to show that they have my permission? In that case the formal footer is probably useful.... etc. etc.
Me: "🤢"
Boss: "👌"
lollllll
They took the time to find nice words however they came about them. I’m sure your boss is busy.
Except they didn't, actually. They saved time by not having to find them.
I'm sure they're not an asshole, but they're not considerate, either.
At least they approved paid time off. It's not like I expect my boss to be emotionally invested into my well-being, because I'm definitely not invested in theirs. I'm just here for the money.
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