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Sharing information on social media is common for many people nowadays, but it's not always without consequence. In some cases, simple 'likes' can be used as evidence in court, as a Florida man recently discovered. His Star Wars and Minion 'likes' were presented as evidence to support allegations he may be a prolific BitTorrent pirate.

You should assume that dbzer0 will eventually get a legal request to turn over records.

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[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 158 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 109 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Id upboat this but that might be used as evidence of libel.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You commented which is worse. It's futile to hide, the popo is on their way.

[–] don@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Preemptively denying dismissal of their future case, trial will continue when the request for dismissal arises.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago

To quote the great Suzy Eddie Izzard: I was dead at the time!

Stop right there criminal scum!

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just another day in Florida.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

but also entirely predictable.

delete all social media you can.

[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 86 points 2 weeks ago

That judge can fuck off ⬆️

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 66 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't imagine the shame I'd feel if there was a legal finding stating that I was a fan of the minions.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago

"It was for my kids, I swear!!"

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Florida Man" - checks out.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Florida Man < Florida Judge < Florida Politician

[–] OwOhollyShiitake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm going to jail then lol

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They don't jail you, they take every penny you've ever had or will have for the rest of your life.

It's only fair, you becoming destitute for liking a post is far better than the risk that they didn't get their $24.95 from you. /s

[–] sqgl@beehaw.org 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Might be worth paying for a VPN to avoid this.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 1 week ago

Vpn is a bare minimum, got to threat your ISP as threat actor from the start.

ZK services is the future

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You should assume that dbzer0 will eventually get a legal request to turn over records.

What request? The record are public.

[–] florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ip addresses of individual users aren't public and are collected by their home server.

[–] MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Here's mine, (right now anyway, doesn't stay the same for long) 185.220.101.21, come show up to... some datacenter in Germany...

Also I'm not sure if dbzer0 saves those persistently or clears them out often. If they do clear them then it probably doesn't matter much.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

What if we "comply" and give them their damn records if they come demanding them.

Gigabytes of data that is just red herrings and stuff that doesn't lead anywhere but still has to be checked. And in formatted in such way it has to be done manually and can't be automated without even bigger effort and cost. If you give it to ai it will just start spouting nonesense or preferrably accusing obviously wrong people. It is likely not possible to make something like that, but it would be great if it was.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not very difficult to parse through database data for specific usernames and comments/upvotes related to that.

A determined judge would just make you pay for the time it takes to do so.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There must still be some way to defend oneself against oppressive authorities in such way it doesn't cause problems to yourself. Though on second thought it might not be good idea to post detailed ideas on public spaces where those hypothetical authorities can also read them. Its like we are living in beginning of boring cyberpunk dystopia.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Rule #1 of the internet: If you post it on the internet, it'll never go away. Like Joel Michael Singer

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

well, the degree of that is also up to other people and how much effort they want to go through

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Not wrong, but still.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And that's why I love Linux isos!

That shit is 🔥

[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I download "Big buck bunny" every year

[–] sykael@startrek.website 4 points 1 week ago

I wonder how many people actually watched that short movie in full

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yea, half the guys in CECOT in El Salvador are torrenters, didn't you know?

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Some of them are also undergoing DHMO deprivation.

[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Turn over records? Is this not all public already?

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

IP addresses are generally not.

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

It is. In the fediverse everything is open otherwise federation wouldn't work.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You should assume that dbzer0 will eventually get a legal request to turn over records.

I assume then that dbzer0 USA owned/operated?

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The admin team is distributed and the infra is in europe iirc.
So no

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wonder, what happens if one places a server in international waters? What jurisdiction if any does apply?

I mean, it would be thematic to be able to place pirate stuff on the literally high seas, ya kno?

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Most attacks on servers are on the connections. All IPs are owned by entities part of countries, so your IP is always under someones jurisdiction. The same is true for regulsr DNS entries, so the domain of that server.

For getting the data however, there also isn't any protection in international waters. Someone would just raid you and you could do nothing about it. What good is lawlessness if you don't have the ability to enforce your own "laws" about not having your data taken away?

You could lay low so noone bothers with that, but then you could also just lay low with regular secretive hosting.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Good* to know, that's a relief!

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

sh.itjust.works is Canadian, just FYI. You may already know that, but for those who don't....

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nice. I've got a SJW account as well, but that's for more political and social stuff. My db0 account is more focused on the tech side of things.

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[–] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

The same idiot judge who still uses a Nokia flip phone?

sharing your high seas with Cuckbook

lmao never

[–] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

We all know where the real injustices are.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

No because I guarantee the consequences for those people are going to be way worse MPA.