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[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 104 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Or maybe it just delivers 600W without burning the ever-loving hell out of the connectors.

[–] AnAmericanPotato@programming.dev 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Almost has to be. 2400W would put it completely outside the consumer market. Consumer PSUs don't go that high. Home power outlets don't go that high unless you have special electrical work done. I can hardly imagine what a cooling system for a nearly 3KW system would look like.

[–] FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

In Europe, this is no biggie

I just saw a reputable 2400W kettle on a random online store for 50€

Looks like there are 3000W options too

[–] AnAmericanPotato@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oh! I knew European outlets operated at higher voltage, but I didn't know the standard circuits supported such high current. Jealous!

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's the same current but double the voltage

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And wiring is typically rated for current limits not voltage (within reason). Some 12 gauge wire doesn't care if you're pushing 12V, 120V, or 240V but is only rated for 20A.

[–] kn33@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

The easiest way to think about it is that the conductor is rated for the current, and the insulator is rated for the voltage. Now, once you get into the nitty gritty, they're more intertwined than that, but it's close enough for a surface level explanation.

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I live in a 50 year old house. All the breakers are 16A, so 220V x 16A = 3.5kW

The electric sauna does three-phase @ 400V. My energy tracker usually peaks around 9.5kW when it's heating.

[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Most are actually 230V which is even more at standard 16A, 3680W to be precise.

Countries that use 110V have so many weird limitations that we don't even know in Europe. For them, 230V is the "special" outlet for special purposes.

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nominally EU voltage is 230V, and may be 240V. In fact, it can be as high as 230V +10% = 253V. Higher voltage means more power for a given current, so nominally it's 16A x 230V = 3.68kW, but you could have say 16A x 250V = 4.0kW.

If your sauna is 400V then it sounds like you'll be 230V (400V / sqrt(3) = 230). But the voltage can also be 230V -6% = 216V, so 220V is within scope.

But yeah, standard voltages in the EU are either 230V/400V or 240V/415V. They've been harmogenised, but if you look at the numbers you'll see the trick - 230V +10% is roughly the same as 240V +6%. So the range is 230V-6% and 240V+6%.

You've got a 3 phase connection though so you might find you've got different single phase breakers on different phases (eg lights on one phase, sockets on another), with slightly different voltages for each one.

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[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

3600W is the maximum a power socket is rated for and the fuse triggers at 3800W. So, cutting it pretty close.

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I wouldn’t use that kind of power continuously. AFAIK the sockets are supposed to handle 16A for at least six hours, when they are new. When charging your car on Schuko sockets it’s good practice to limit it to 10A and check for the socket temperature after a while. Also, any connections in the cabling can have increased resistance with age and heat up with heavy continuous use. That shouldn’t matter that much when running a kettle or toaster for a few minutes, but charging a car or gaming for hours can become a problem.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What about the rest of the computer though?

[–] dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

3840W per breaker. Minus 2400 leaves 1440W, for a CPU, the minor components, and monitors/other equipment. In theory it could work.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You would still need to run the computer off multiple plugs, as almost any 240v plug is 10a.

You'd likely need a dedicated breaker and plug, similar to a stove plug.

[–] dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

Here, plugs are 230V and 16A = 3680W. Not quite as much as I thought (most extension cords seem to be rated for a bit more, which makes sense), but definitely enough to run monitors of the same breaker.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

All UK plugs are 13A.

[–] ftbd@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

I think the typical limit is around 3600W, with 16A at 230V

[–] brot@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Just imagine the costs of running such a system on European energy prices. We're at ~0,35€/kWh here in Germany currently. That means that an hour of running this will cost you 0,84€. Add to that the energy use of the CPU, mainboard, Monitor and you're paying well over 1€ per hour of gaming.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm gonna oneup those kettles with >7500W showerheads

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

nVidia cares less and less about the consumer market every year. We basically only exist to buy the factory fourths so that the overall yield of any given wafer can be maximized.

2400 for a single component is still rather insane even by server room standards. But 12 or even 18 load balanced? That starts to "make sense" for higher end data centers or even on-prem server rooms at the more tech oriented companies.

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yup, I presume this is their answer to the cables burning. Divide the wattage between more wires

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 9 points 1 week ago

The real answer to the burning cables is to divide the wattage between the six wires on a single connector, which most of the 50-series cards don't do that. That results in ~15 amps across a single scorching cable.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They could have just used normal 8 pin connectors in that case.

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[–] Infernal_pizza@lemm.ee 36 points 1 week ago

That's almost 1W per dollar!

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I, for one, would rather just see them use a couple of 2/0 AWG welding cables, bolted onto a 5mm copper plate on the board. If you need 200 amps, make it look like 200 amps.

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago

PCI bus bar on top.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

With 2.4kw you can just use it as a space heater, and a strong one at that!

[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they put 2x 12pin HighPower connectors and they wouldn't be burning up because each would be delivering just 300W. But they explicitely don't allow board partners to do it themselves, because NVIDIA is bunch of controlling assholes.

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[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good luck plugging that into an outlet without tripping a fuse under load.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to be a 1-upper, but you need to also include the power the computer and CPU use as well. Not to mention the age of the outlet and how many times a plug has been inserted/removed from it. The contact resistance can be pretty bad depending on how old the outlet is.

[–] CucumberFetish@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

In most of the EU countries, that is fine as our sockets are mostly 16A rated. Unless you stick 2 of those GPUs in your PC

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nvidia has been pretty shit for the last few generations but this is clearly just an engineering prototype for testing, they obviously weren’t trying to make a 2400w 5090.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

don't put it past nvidia.

they gotta fulfill those unrealized promises about native 4k gaming somehow.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Electric companies after every nvidia gpu generation.
Donald Duck Gold.jpg
3090 TDP 350 W
4090 TDP 450 W
5090 TDP 575 W

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Christ, not exactly a model of power efficiency is it?

Also, if it's drawing that much power, how could it possibly dissipate all the heat? It must sound like an F-16.

I expect this card will be a hard pass from me...

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