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[–] Soliae@lemm.ee 44 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Proper headline:

“Harris Chose Billionaires Over Working Class; Voters Chose to Burn It Down Rather Than Submit to More Democrat Pretending”

If the choice is between a fast death with Trump and a slow death with corporate Democrats morphing into Republicans, can we really blame folks for choosing a fast death?

We need progressive, true left politics if we ever want to recover.

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 28 points 4 days ago (12 children)

She failed to differentiate herself from biden in many different ways. One of which was her stance on genocide. Less people generally came out and voted for her in part due to these factors

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Lol Americans didn't stay home for gaza, most Americans didn't give a shit about that.

It was always about the cost of living. The average Democratic voter mindset is: "I voted Biden last time and nothing changed except food got more expensive, why bother voting"

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[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Democrats got paid to lose plain and simple

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 4 days ago (3 children)

They make more in donations when they're the minority party who shouts about things they'll never ever fucking do and decry horrors they'll quietly continue when it's their turn.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"A lot of the people are saying it was Joe Biden's fault that Kamala Harris lost the election … not true. It was the fault of Kamala Harris and her consultants,"

Full clip here

He also said "I ran all over the country to try to elect her" so it's a pretty longshot from these comments claiming both sides bad. If all of you, everyone eligible to vote in 2024, had listened to Bernie Sanders then Kamala Harris would be president and none of this would have happened.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't dislike Kamala, and Trump is a sociopath. I realize Joe Biden probably had cancer before he dropped out and that's why he dropped out. But I have to also say that voters probably didn't like the bait and switch approach where they suddenly felt they had to support her simply because she appeared as the candidate in the last legs of the campaign. I think diversity and female leadership is important, but probably asking undecided voters to go for a POC woman when that's not who they started out supporting probably didn't help. Old white centrists don't like that, and she didn't have time to build a campaign and show her skills like Obama did. Probably a good chunk of people straddling the line vote wise didn't love that. We had this happen in Canada recently with our new prime minister Carney, but he's an older white centrist dude, and we were clearly ok to hold our noses and do it to keep out the conservatives, but I think if it was someone like Kamala they might not have won.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Biden didn't drop out because of his cancer. He dropped out because that disastrous debate made it impossible for him to win. If he had really wanted to drop for his health, he would have done it at least the year before to give time for a primary.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Even without the debate, Bidens poll numbers for years before the debate made it impossible for him to win. No candidate has ever come from that far behind and won. When Roe went down on his watch his numbers cratered and never recovered. The DNC knew this but they wanted their AIPAC war to continue uninterrupted, or else give the chair to trump, who was their desired pick anyway. So they bought that outcome.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Cuz they all went to billionaire schools that tells them support billionaires and the economy will be good.

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[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago

Corporate democrats #1 policy: protect the 1% at all costs

[–] whaleiam@lemm.ee 16 points 4 days ago

And wow Bernie is right again.

[–] dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (19 children)

Really?

I blame it on the working class choosing billionaires over the working class. That's how we got kamala and biden in the first place.

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Kamala Harris just chooses whatever she thinks will further her career. She chose poorly. She's just lucky the party was stupid enough to have elevated her to vice president even after her debate performance was so bad that she dropped out before the 2020 presidential race even started. Then the idiotic party elevated her again after Biden (another opportunist piece of garbage who was elevated by the party) was forced to step down after his embarrassing 2024 debate performance was obvious to even deluded party insiders.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

First time I don't 100% agree with him. I partially agree with Bernie here. Had Harris stuck with a more progressive ticket, she'd have stood a better chance; however, that doesn't explain the millions and millions of Americans that voted for a convicted criminal, rapist, kleptocrat, that claims to be for Jesus.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Trump is a collective tantrum by aggrieved people.

[–] theolodis@feddit.org 6 points 3 days ago

That's why you need some president that introduces something like a requirement for kids to visit a school, abolishing religious private schools (or forcing them to comply with a national standard for education).

Stupid people will vote for stupid shit, and home schooling or ultra-religious schools just lead to more stupid people. Knowledge is power for the people.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I wish I could believe that.

I mean, don't get me wrong - it would've been a better route to take in any case, whether it delivered the campaign from defeat or not.

But I have no faith in my fellow Americans to choose politicians or policies that represent their best interests.

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