I'm pro bike and anti bike lane.
The entire street should be for bikes only
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I'm pro bike and anti bike lane.
The entire street should be for bikes only
You lie. That's how. They aren't pro bike they are just saying it to make their point
Always check twice whenever someone claims "it's simple math"!
Right? If it’s so simple, show me the damn math! I’m happy to check your work, it being so simple.
They're still on xitter, and they paid for blue checks. Who cares what opinion they hold on literally anything?
please call it Twitter. just to piss elon off. Xitter sounds even worse than X honestly
I read it as "shitter" and it makes me chuckle. Is that not how you're supposed to say it?
I'm anti bike lane. Roads should be for bikes and pedestrians. Cars should get their own single separated lane on the occasional road.
Bike lanes are car infrastructure. They are not needed unless you consider the entire street to be for cars by default.
Also dave is an idiot. Maximum capacity would be a cycle and transit only street because those have the highest throughput per lane. Cars are incredibly space inefficient.
Bike lanes are car infrastructure. They are not needed unless you consider the entire street to be for cars by default.
They're better when they protect cyclists from cars with more than paint. I ride, and I'm less of an arsehole to drivers when I have a separated lane with as good or better rights than the cars
I would like to see streets slowed down and bike infrastructure better protected on roads. I don't need bike lanes on streets, as almost all of them are pretty safe for cyclists — drivers seem happy to go slower and leave metres of space when passing
Slight disagreement there. Streets are for pedestrians and bikes and trams and the occasional car (in a dedicated car lane). Roads (as in large arterial roads in very limited areas, meant for fast travel between faraway zones when trains are inconvenient, or highways between cities) can be considered as intended for cars, and even those should have pretty good space dedicated to bike lanes and pedestrian sidewalks.
Bike lanes suck. Separated bike paths are much better. Or just streets without cars at all, no need for a bike lane if there are no cars.
Some of them are against bike lanes because they say it gives drivers a false sense of entitlement and cyclists a false sense of security when they're supposed to be sharing the road.
That doesn't sound like this guy, though.
I ride an odd bike, a recumbent. I have seen a few cars watching me rather than the road, which is good for me — they give me loads of space — but bad for anyone ahead of me as the drivers show no lane control for a good 50m after they pass me. Where that happened most recently is also where a driver killed a cyclist by wandering into the bike lane despite having a six metre wide lane to themselves (even the cycle lane there is three metres wide)
Vehicular cyclists are the fucking worst. I find that they fall into two groups:
Either way they're almost 100% athletic white men who for some reason never picked up on the fact that cycling in a car culture is a near-perfect analogy / example of what it's like to be a marginalized minority and a first-hand demonstration of privilege. Instead they're defenders of the status quo - By way of their own athletic, gender, or monetary privilege - All the way to their bloody meat crayon deaths. They're that one asshole who shows up to the community board meeting about a new bike lane that will make cycling accessible for children, the elderly, and any person in between who is more risk-averse or less athletic than they are in order to speak against it "As a cyclist". Because to them battling for your life in traffic, being on the bleeding edge of death, breathing in truck exhaust from the shoulder of a stroad is a gatekeeping measure. They're masochistic elites, they rake pride in the danger that they put themselves in so much that they'd deny accessibility to anyone else unwilling to accept that danger.
Gordon Ramsey is an example of someone in the dentist group. A few years ago he very nearly got meat crayoned by a car while cycling in the US. He didn't provide the details of the crash but it was obvious from his injuries that he'd been hit from the side by a car or truck and likely went over the hood. His public plea in revealing this wasn't that the US needs to make roads safer for cyclists, or more accessible to people who don't have a group of equally wealthy friends to peloton around a foreign country with, maybe separating cars from cyclists so that the two may never conflict. His one and only adamant request was that we all wear a helmet. Cycling is wasted on these myopic asshats.
Oh bother, I've gone and ranted again.
Hey, i fall into the dentist group! But i totally advocate for bike lanes, and i'm not white...
There are dozens of us at the local critical mass ride!!! I make it a point to show up in my ridiculous spandex gear to show people the dentists aren't all assholes. Also, good spandex is really comfy.
Why the hate?? Yeah i sunk a lot of money into my hobby, but thats what people do. People spend tens of thousands on camera gear, gaming rigs, etc. Why hate on others' expensive hobbies?
I'm actually not that rich, but living car free and biking every day has allowed me to allocate a lot of money towards my hobbies. Cars are a total money sink... 10yrs ago it was around $6k/year TCO. I'm sure it's more now...
You should put an additional qualifier on your dentist description.... Carries their $20k bike on top of their $80k SUV. Drives 2 hours out of the city just to ride around for an hour...
Car drivers telling cyclists they spend too much :D
Got a friend this way. He hates bikes on the road. And yells to get on the greenways etc. Cause slow his lifted f150, that he needs to commute and get groceries, down for 30 seconds. The bike then get on the greenway and then he bitches they go too fast there.
Also he weighs about 300 lbs and doesn’t work out in any way.
Pro-life + anti-gun control = pro-birth.
Or in other words: He's pro after-birth abortions.
Birth them all; let school shooters sort them out
No, thats too messy. Cars cull the weak outside, where cleanup is easier.
"it's simple math" - read about that expression on Facebook, never actually had math themselves as they were home schooled in creationism and flat earth.
Hey I get it though, bike lanes are expensive new infrastructure. So pro-bike, anti bike lane just means all roads are now for bikes, cars not allowed. Ban cars and you don't need expensive new infrastructure! Sounds great!
Yes but then we would need to kill children manually. Have you ever tried to hack up a hundred pounds of meat with a machete? Its quite the job.
The fact us; we need cars. They just save so much labor.
This is funny to me because the one time I was in NYC, the streets were empty but the sidewalks were congested as fuck.
Dave isn’t very bright
That's obvious. He pays to use Twitter.