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I don't care about the rating on other people's content. On my own I only care so far as to use it as a guideline for whether I actually was interesting.
On reddit I was a trolling karma whore, but here? Here I'm much more about engaging with people and getting 3 upvotes tells me that I gave the community something meaningful.
The intention behind most downvotes is
i hate useless circlejerk nonsense getting updooted to the ceiling, and good but disagreeable information being downvoted into the earth.
When in comes to my own posts and comments, my trust in vague negative reactions is long gone.
Some things that made me more suspicious of Lemmy users:
For me, taking online feedback less seriously was a big part of growing up.
Yes and no. The same comment on different communities can have vastly different results, so I think it's too easy to just "justify" why the ratios you don't agree with are there, while the ones you do are obviously "fair"
Yes and I'm trying to stop it from happening.
I check my downvotes every so often to see if I've made an ass of myself.
Thankfully, people often explain they're downvotes here, so I tend to learn something.
If I haven't internalized whatever it is, I'll find that their still downvoting me, so I get another chance to improve there opinion of me.
I'm onto you're plan
No, not at all. When you get a ton of downvotes but zero responses, assuming you didnβt just post literal nonsense, I consider it proof Iβm correct and itβs just a truth people donβt like. When youβre wrong people will downvote you and tell you why, which should be a learning experience that a person should be humble enough to accept but just downvotes or responses only attacking you not you points is pure validation youβre speaking an uncomfortable truth
And when someone spins up 3 entire instances to create accounts to downvote you, you know you're right.
Yes. Downvotes allow a well educated community to bury misinformation
Or an uneducated community to bury real information π
We shouldn't allow uneducated people to participate in our communities
I disagree, downvotes come free but replies are expensive, when downvotes are disabled you instead have replies that debunk you
You only encourage dogpiling when downvotes are available
I pretty much always win with votes. If I get upvotes, I think someone appreciated it. If someone downvotes, I think theyβre a hater.
I wonβt lie though; my adhd ass checks way too often in a desperate search for dopamine.
There are only two things I think about when it comes to vote count:
if I make a joke, and it's not being replied to but being downvoted I want to know if people understood the joke, understood it even was a joke, or if the joke was just not funny.
If I see a question being asked that doesn't appear to be in bad faith being downvoted, and not answered, it pisses me off.
One thing I hope everyone takes from reddit, the troll's main weapon is downvoting in droves. I've seen 6 upvotes happen in under a minute on Lemmy and we don't have that kind of user base. Some posts don't even get federated that quickly. If the question was in good faith and downvoted, it was probably trolls. I hope you don't take that personal.
The amount of lurkers would surprise you.
All the lurkers upvoting thisπ
I like to say it doesn't change my view, but it probably does more than I realize. Everyone likes to think they're immune to stuff like that, but we really aren't.
wow, first time i see gif as profile pic :D yeah i disabled like 2 days ago votes and now i have actually no idea what comment on this post can have down or up votes and truly it feels nice, I recommend it to everybody
Yes, sometimes I say some stupid shit and other people correct me. Sometimes it's the reverse. We all keep each other accountable.
I also like that, but I'm not as fond of when the correction is immediately aggressive, dismissive or insulting.
Like when people start ascribing attributes to my personality without knowing me or make assumptions about why I said it. I'd rather have people asking me to elaborate than jumping to conclusions.
Yes. I've learned that (it helps when I) resond with "I" statements, for that kind of interaction.
"I don't see it that way." works as well as "You are wrong.", but the "I" version implies fewer assumptions about what the other person is trying to communicate.
Edit: I have had good luck with adjusting my approach, this way. (To add a quick I statement, haha.)
It depends, once I got like 20 upvotes and it was amazing to think them at 70% of Lemmy users read and agreed with my post!
Only when I'm checking to see what I said before someone replied. Otherwise, I never check.
Usually no, unless I've left a reply disagreeing then someone else comes along and downvotes them, makes me look like an ass who downvotes anyone I disagree with. I also check my own comments to see if people agree with me but I'll keep the comment up either way, if I do change my mind I'd rather leave a new comment or add stuff in an edit.
It's not too difficult to bot votes on lemmy so they're even more pointless than they are on reddit.
When I see someone downvoted for no good reason, I tend to support them; upvotes don't sway me at all. My own stuff I see votes as a guide to how well I fit a community (except in one controversial group which attracts down votes β there voters are meaningless
It lets me feel like my time here is being useful if I get the upvotes. I try to limit myself to positive/fun/helpful posts or adding additional facts from other articles to someone's post of I feel more info is needed to get a full story, so if people reply or at least upvote, it feels like it was worth adding my contribution. If my humor/help isn't needed or wanted in a place, I don't want to both waste my time and annoy people.
Upvoted π
Yay! Validation! π
Not really. Someone will disagree with me eventually, but that doesn't mean I'm interested in debating or earning their approval somehow.
They're helpful to determine the general community's take on something, even if there is little other engagement.
And if I'm being honest, getting upvotes is a sweet hit of dopamine. But I try to keep things in perspective.
I'm on an instance that only federates upvotes so I don't really think about downvotes or know if I am getting them.
Down votes are useful for estimating the exactly how badly damaged the sense of humour in the community is.
I only care when I'm making a post, to help judge how people liked it. I don't pay attention to points inside threads really.
I prefer to see both numbers rather than the sum. The variance sort of gives a 'controversial' score. Can't get that with PieFed yet, but I prefer the deduplication of PieFed over the split scores on Voyager.
is piefed alternative to lemmy?
It's much the same. Lemmy and PieFed talk to each other no worries.
It does all the same things but has some additional features as well. The killer feature for me is merging duplicate posts so you only see them once but with all the comments from the different groups stacked underneath.
That is killer.
Yes, but actually no. Upvotes are are similar to seeing someone's smile or nodding in agreement. Downvotes are like a dead stare or shaking their head in disagreement.
If someone else is downvoted but seems to have posted in good faith or as a joke it means there is probably something I am missing. Maybe they are serious when I think it is a joke, or there is some context that is news to me.
If I have a commwnt that is downvoted significantly (like ten or more down than up, or only down) then I double check to see if I was unclear or maybe a joke didn't land. Mostly to make sure my intent came though.
If I clarify something and people just don't agree with it because they don't see the same nuance then I do think about it a but and come back later to see if maybe I was wrong or everyone else is a dumbass. Most of the time it is me not being clear enough. If they are dumbasses, oh well.
I also feel happy when a good comment gets upvoted to double digits. That is a nice feeling.
Thats not what downvotes are.
Downvotes aren't for disagreeing. Its for misinformation, hate speech, etc.
Keep telling yourself that.
What are you saying?
Downvotes are frequently used for disagreement no matter what the intended use is supposed to be. Heck, a lot of the time people assume comments are misinformation when the person voting just disagrees. People often upvote misinformation because they agree with it too.
But feel free to keep telling yourself that everyone is using votes the way they are 'intended to be used' instead of how they are actually used which is 'I agree that this is accurate and/or find this funny' or 'I disagree with the post because it is wrong/contradicts my existing knowledge/is worded insultingly'.
There seems to be a general agreement that people should avoid communities that promote misinformation instead of downvoting it as well, which I find contradicts the idea of downvoting misinformation being a purpose.
So you're saying that people here are dumb and spread misinformation? Interesting. Sounds like we have some educating to do.
I use my post/comment history (and saves) as a way to know what threads to go check in on later. And I get a kick out of seeing a lot of upvotes and dislike seeing anything in negative territory. But I don't have votes in mind when I post.
I dont think it changes my pov, but it def does for other people on a large scale
you could say the same message in different parts of the same thread, and by chance one will accumulate more downvotes and one will accumulate more upvotes
for example: https://sh.itjust.works/post/39444493/18993947 and https://sh.itjust.works/post/39444493/18993522 say the same thing, but one has 42 updates and 8 downvotes and one has 120 downvotes to 23 upvotes
people need to stop looking at these numbers