I'm pretty satisfied as a subscriber. Slowly using proton mail for more and more important accounts. Constant usage of the VPN. Trying to use the calendar more but still haven't broken my Google Calendar habits. Proton Drive I use over google; I just need a Linux desktop application. Proton pass, still haven't given that a go. Comfortable with KeepassXC and managing the backups myself. Proton Docs, it's OK. Solid start. Hoping that notes partnership/acquisition eventually replaces Google Keep for me as a cloud notes application. I have pretty strong confidence now in the company regardless of the slow Linux developments
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I hate how VPN access is the scaffolding holding the building up making things look normal. You can visit all your normal web sites, you can bypass georestrictions, you can be a little less tracked than you might otherwise be. But what happens when they decide to do away with that scaffolding and we all find out they tore down the house behind it while we were enjoying "normalcy". Too much of making the web functional depends on vpns and adblocking. We shouldn't have to do this stuff and Chromes adblocking scandle should impact millions of users all around the world unilaterally removing adblocking from the web. I fear for the day we have a US only internet and a global internet, not just on paper, but in actual practice.
Peak French stupidity, this isn't about protecting kids - it's about building surveillance infrastructure. Back in 2024, critics already called this the foundation for a "Great Firewall of France". Once you have the legal framework to block websites and force ISPs to implement monitoring, mission creep is inevitable.
The technical approach is laughably naive. They're essentially creating a centralized system that could easily become a database of citizen sexual preferences. Even with their "double anonymity," you're still creating digital fingerprints and metadata trails.
Most importantly, it won't work. Kids will just use VPNs - the same way adults are already doing. You're not protecting anyone; you're just pushing everyone toward circumvention tools while normalizing government control over what adults can access online.
It's perfectly French because it combines maximum bureaucratic complexity with zero practical benefit, all while creating new opportunities for state overreach. Classic.
Amen
i think it should be a little harder for a child to watch anal prolapse fisting porn than “click yes if you’re of legal age”….
but… not a good excuse for creating a citizen surveillance database.
Fair point on the current system being theater, but here's the thing - any centralized age verification system creates exactly the surveillance database you're worried about.
The "harder than clicking yes" solutions all have the same fundamental flaw: they require collecting and storing sensitive data that becomes a honeypot for both state actors and bad actors. Upload your ID? Now there's a database linking your identity to your viewing habits. Credit card verification? Same problem, plus you're creating financial trails.
The technical reality is that determined kids will circumvent anything you put in place. We already saw this play out - VPN registrations exploded 1,000% in France within 30 minutes. You're not actually protecting kids; you're just normalizing data collection on adults while teaching every teenager in the country how to use Tor.
Better approach would be device-level parental controls that parents can configure without creating centralized databases. Let Apple, Google, Microsoft handle age verification through their existing account systems where the data stays local. That way you get actual protection without building the infrastructure for a surveillance state.
The French solution gives you the worst of both worlds - ineffective protection AND mass surveillance. Classic government efficiency.
How about mullvad
hows proton?
once again porn leads technology
I guess this bodes well for Proton becoming increasingly a Google One products replacement with more users potentially paying
At first I suspected this was the French government demanding that 40% of the videos be made in europe using the French language.
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France underestimated the power of horny
Have you met the French? There's a bunch of English sex words brought in from French! Most notably is ménage à trois, for a threesome. The smoking a cigarette after sex cliché is pretty French too.
ménage à trois
Should be "plan à trois" I believe
My understanding is that ménage à trois says the three are 'living together' with the sex being implied via innuendo, whereas plan à trois is more directly about the sex act itself.
I have no idea what is correct French, but the first phrase is the one that is used in English, I have never heard the second
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wtf, france?
I remember when the French used to respond to this shit with fire instead
Now we get tear gased and shot with rubber bullets until we become disabled
Bub, that's always happened.
Well actually in the past it was executed
yea indeed, but they do it pretty much every time on everyone, dunno if that was the same before
France uses a hybrid healthcare system like Australia, doesn't it? Disabling your own populace in a country with public healthcare seems like a bit of a own goal tbh.
And now they want to keep doing the job of the parents and forbid "social network" to kids 15 and under.
You horny bastards
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