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[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 20 points 22 hours ago

always thought it suspicious there was soooo many reds when the final count was in.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 71 points 1 day ago (13 children)

OK, next question: Let's say we do a 'recount' at this hour, assuming the evidence isn't already lost, what then?

Think he's going to go, ohh my bad?

Think he's going to leave willingly?

Think the court case will even be appropriately handled once it goes to the SCOTUS.

Think the SCOTUS will even hear it?

How is it 100 days later, we just now hear about this?

[–] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Last time he had to go the Capitol was stormed by terrorists.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Best case scenarios aren't really on the table. Doesn't mean you stop fighting.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I can see how it looks like I'm saying that I'm not advocating that at all. I just want to make sure that people understand this isn't a direct path to change.

Even a direct admission will not change anyone's mind. You are at best removing a couple of easy outs** for them to lie and say that's not how it is. In the end they're just going to lie and say that it's not real.

It'll be satisfying. It might make some already engaged people a little more engaged, But it isn't **in itself going to drive the needle we're going to need more.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

All correct

[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the best outcome would be that it might uncover deliberate malfeasance that might prompt some folks in congress to do what is needed. I wouldn't be optimistic though.

Slightly more likely is that such discovery would drive the public towards a congressional swing away from his enablers at the next congressional election next year, assuming we have it. I'm moderately more optimistic on that, apparently such a swing is already forming, but to what extent isn't clear.

We can't undo the election results, the congressional count done on jan 6 is definitive.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 21 hours ago

I fear, if it looks like Congress isn't going his way he's just going to seize control.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's...not 100 days later. Its about 190 days later.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago
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[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 88 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

So wait a minute here guys, you're telling me that the man who was convicted by a unanimous jury of fraud (cheating) in the 2016 election, the same guy who called the governors of various states and asked them to 'find him some votes' in 2020, did not run a clean honest campaign in 2024???

Get the EFF out of here!!

[–] Ronno@feddit.nl 3 points 16 hours ago

Wasn't it the same guy that congratulated Elon Musk for his involvement in getting him elected? I don't know, must be fluke.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

Leave the Electronic Frontier Foundation out of this.

[–] FreeWilliam@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

Nah it's liberal propaganda. Anyways let's storm the capital

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago (6 children)

This is why manual hand counted votes still happen to this day in Canada and Australia. They both faced the same MAGA threat and the lib won.

Yes it takes longer. And sometimes results will take weeks to resolve but at least they don’t end up in a situation like this where the entire system is so corrupt 4 months later it’s near impossible to fix it.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 12 points 1 day ago

Please don't say "the lib won" the liberals in Australia are a right wing party. US paradigms are not universal, just say left or right

[–] Enkimaru@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Same in Germany

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They both faced the same MAGA threat and the lib won.

Largely thanks to the local public backlash to Trump tariffs. If Kamala had prevailed in November, both countries would likely have MAGA governments today.

[–] lapping6596@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's weird to be an American and hope the silver lining of trump is that the rest of the world keeps making better choices in response to how bad this is.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Part of the Trump brand is "Fuck you, I've got mine" which isn't condusive to international coalitions.

Hell, just look at the Ukraine/Russia conflict. As soon as Trump got Zelensky to sign a bunch of Western Ukrainian real estate over to his cronies, he unleashed a large traunch of weapons to fuck over Putin. As soon as he got another Perfect Phone Call from Xi, and secured some unspecified promise, the Chinese tariffs evaporated.

My man stands for nothing that won't fit into his pocket.

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[–] RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

It doesn't take longer. France announces the preliminary results of an election 2 hours after the polling places close.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

After HitlerPig's 2025 State of the Union speech, new Democratic senator Elissa Slotkin gave the Democratic response, and tried to sell the idea that millions of people in her state voted for her for Senator, but Trump for president.

This past weekend, Amy Klobuchar tried to sell that same fantasy on Meet The Press - that millions in her state voted for her, but also voted for HitlerPig.

I'm sure there are a few people who split their vote, but they have to be as rare as white squirrels. There are supposed to be millions of them, so many that HitlerPig even won EVERY battleground state (an exceptionally unlikely outcome), but I've never heard one actual voter claim they voted a straight Democratic ticket, except HitlerPig for president. It sounds ridiculous when you actually say it.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 62 points 1 day ago (37 children)

To paraphrase Bush v Gore over negative votes in Florida after the SC sent the case to a lower court and it was appealed back to them

it’s been so long since the election that it would be unfair to change the outcome now

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Does this mean libs will stop blaming voters?

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I believe most of the blame was on non-voters.

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[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

You mean blaming leftists?

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