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Original question by @monovergent@lemmy.ml

I was putting up some wall decorations earlier today and was painstakingly realigning everything until it looked level to my eyes. It might be just a hair off, but if I don't correct it, I'll see the misalignment almost instantly and get bothered for the rest of time until I fix it. Has anyone investigated, or is there literature on the minimum perceptible angle from level to the naked eye?

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[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can tell you this much as an electrician: there's "bubble level", and there's "building level". Lots of buildings aren't bubble level and you can either make it look right, or go by the bubble and look cockeyed.

[–] somewhiteguy@infosec.pub 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Any home built by DR Horton or DSLD (American contractors) are like this.

The homes look fine, but nothing is "bubble level". I had my attic ladder fall out of the ceiling due to some overweight things (and people) using it a lot to save things from some flood waters. We re-installed a new ladder, and made it "bubble level" which makes it now off from the ceiling itself. Now I'm working on filling the gaps between the ceiling and ladder frame in certain areas.

If you're hanging some pictures, eye level is fine. If you're doing anything else, please use a bubble.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Omg FUCK DR Horton.

These asshats are literally the reason my city has had to adopt stupid additional regulations because they keep shooting nails into feeder wires. Now, we have to run conduit, for the feeders, inside the walls in a home. Absolutely insane that they can keep working, they're building thousands more homes in the area too.

Fuckin race-to-the-bottom garbage contractors, DR Horton. Everything wrong with the residential construction industry in one company. :spits:

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Aren't plates required on studs where wire runs?

Or are they somehow shooting through or around the plates?

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No my dude they're blasting through the fuckin vinyl siding. Like with 16penny nails or some shit.

It's happened so many times that the local inspector said "fuck it run conduit". It was a fun week at the supply house, every electrician was like "but.. how?? And is that even legal?"

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, from the outside. Holy shit.

OK, now I see why they're requiring conduit. Holy shit.

Lol yuuuup. Crazy aint it?