Unfortunately, I think this is what it might take for the people of Israel to do something about their government. Iran has enough force to scare civilians into making an effort to back out of war.
this post was submitted on 13 Jun 2025
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The British turned entire cities into flame tornados during ww2, and it galvanised the Germans rather than deter them.
I see this argument repeated here every now and then, but it’s not true: https://aoav.org.uk/2020/the-effects-of-strategic-bombing-in-wwii-on-german-morale/
To summarise: Bombing had a profound effect on depressing morale through inducing defeatism, fear and apathy. Bombing did not harden popular resolve against the US. The hate and anger it aroused was directed against the Nazi regime, not the Allies.
Sorry, you're right. The point I was trying to clumsily make is that It didn't have the effect that the RAF were aiming for. Which was to break morale and more importantly, stem the civilian population production of war. If anything, production increased, despite the terror.
I'm incredibly ignorant on WW2, and in general knowledge, being a nerd and all, my brain is full of Linux. However I have recently been watching the World War in Color series. I've been watching several other similar series and I'm totally hooked now.
The run-up to WW2 and current US affairs look strikingly similar. I look at the TV, then my phone, then back at the TV and "it's the same picture".
The entire premise behind Israel as a project state is the marketing that they are doing “the right thing.” It has nothing to do with the Jewish faith. It has everything to do with zionism, genocide, and profit.
They know they are the bad guys here. They don’t care.
There are very few conflicts where you can paint the governments involved as black and white "good guys/bad guys". In the Iran / Israel arena I'd like to see both governments fall.
Iran I'd like to see return to being a much more secular state, and Israel... Well they've got some very deep rot to expunge. 70+ years of "Lebensraum" type entitled-expansion. I don't know how you get that out of the culture.
You have to remember that the citizens of a country aren't always the same as the leadership of the country.
correct! i absolutely remember that. which means sometimes when I say “Israel” people think I mean working class folks trying to get by. However those folks are not zionists. Zionists do not count as “folks” in this formula.
I’m not saying they’re gonna a have a moral breakthrough. I’m saying they’re not gonna want to engage in a war that means a lot of their people are dying. War on Palestine is easy. War against Iran is not.
for sure. they will certainly be pissed and frustrated and hopefully boot nazi netanyahu out of office.
Hopefully. But they may just make a peace deal and the Gaza continues to burn.
Lol it won't because this is literally nothing. They've been through much worse and Iran default response for the past few years has been to launch a bunch of blank rockets that run on Imam farts and then claim that they made Tel Aviv burn in "hell fire".
These attacks are a signal from Iran that they don't want a war with Israel and that this is the furthest they'll go. They did the same thing when Haniyeh was killed in Tehran.
I’m not saying this one attack is what it takes. Continued attacks will lead to peace talks, which is what happens all the time.
Iran doesn't recognize Israel so they won't have any direct negotiations any time soon.
Then we’ll have to see if they keep attacking each other.
No, this will reinforce the Zionist belief that the less Arabs the better.
Iranians are generally Persian, not Arab. Arabs are a very small minority in Iran.
I am afraid neither the Zionists nor many of their Allies will care.
Arabs make up about 2% of Iran's population, but I get your meaning.
They might believe that but depending on how hard Iran fires back they might not want to mess up their relatively cushy lifestyles.
The official Israeli reason for this is because of 'iranian' drones being sent towards Israeli territory (released from Iraq rather than Iran) so they have manufactured a casus belli, and Iran clearly didn't expect this attack since they were actually cooperating more than the past before the attacks
as the attack happened tons of flight flew to Cyprus. I have a feeling the entire government is in the UK base there, while the "citizen" have to deal with backlash.
“Why don’t presidents fight the war? Why do they always send the poor?”
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