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Before going to a protest, demonstrators or observers should note that their cellphones may subject them to surveillance tactics by law enforcement. If your cellphone is on and unsecured, your location can be tracked and your unencrypted communications, such as SMS, may be intercepted. Additionally, police may retrieve your messages and the content of your phone if they take custody of your phone, or later by warrant or subpoena.

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[–] Buske@lemmy.world 3 points 33 minutes ago

YOU DONT BRING IT.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 2 points 29 minutes ago

By leaving it at home.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 26 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Leave it at home for a protest if you care about being tracked.

Pretty much all cell phones can be tracked even when turned off.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Even with a libre OS and all radios turned off? (So to use the phone as a camera and offline navigation)

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 49 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Turn it off and leave it at home.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 25 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Leave it on at home.

"Your honor, as you can see from my mobile device location history, I never even left my house that day."

Not that that'll actually work or that they'll care, but still...

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They likely have the data to show it didn't move at all. Eg it wasn't on your person.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Put a harness on your pet and put it on the harness. Boom, instant spoofing.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 2 hours ago

Movement data shows that you scratch your fleas a lot, you should do something about that.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 8 hours ago

"I let my landlord borrow my car, though. He said it was important."

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Most modern devices track the phone even when it's turned off. If you can't remove the battery, leave it at home.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 2 hours ago

When I shut the lid on my work computer I assumed it was "off" or at least inactive. My home network showed me it was continuing to "check in" throughout the night.

[–] angelmountain@feddit.nl 13 points 13 hours ago

... Goes to a protest to support gaza, get's phone unlocked because police is using Israeli cellebrite software...

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 20 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

Jesus Christ, this conversation is scary. I wish y’all good luck that none of these precautions are necessary.

As someone in a blue state where governance is sane, I’m “raw dogging it” (effing offensive slang term but now I’ve used it once in my life and can rest easy) and bringing my kids (teens). M also going to the local demonstration rather than go into the city for a big one - to some extent it’s a numbers game: ICE can’t raid them all and police aren’t legally allowed to help them

…. And hopefully my optimism is well founded

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Edit: huge success! Entirely peaceful. While a few cops drove by, there was no police presence. Thousands of people of all ages lining both sides of main st, and three sides of our town common. Constant honking from supporters driving by. It was very inspirational. I’m proud of my fellow citizens and hope our voice for restoring sanity and democracy is heard.

For those pessimists,a bit more context why I was so optimistic….. a few years back, our mayor and police were participants in a local BLM rally. Also a big part of local outrage against fascism was a city counselor getting assaulted and arrested for videoing an illegal raid on one of his constituents.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 12 points 12 hours ago

Doesn't matter of the state is blue, the police force is going to do everything they can to fuck you anyways.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I’m in one of the bluest. Our police and FBI are not “blue.” American spy forces and “committee on anti-American activities”-ass motherfuckers are not kind or just, no matter the voting tendencies of the populace.

How many decades have we seen far right terror groups overlooked for anti-capitalist leftists? The left threatens the status quo, the right fortifies it. The blue and red dichotomy is the status quo. The democrats support the genocide in Palestine. Going against that status quo makes you not safe from government crackdowns, the party in power is completely irrelevant.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 2 hours ago

If your "blue leaders" are any good, they enforce psych profiles on police recruitment that ensures you don't have a force full of racist authoritarian law in their own hands radicals, at least for the forces they control - feds may be a different story.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The fact that this conversation is even necessary is to me more scary.

I used to think the Bush era was bad. I’d gladly trade that for now.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Bush was just a goofy lil war criminal compared to this shit

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago
[–] NWIBiHigh@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You say kids. Youve rawdogged more than once probably

[–] PTSDwarrior@lemmy.ml 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nowadays millennials and Gen Z use raw dogging to indicate going either without protection to their electronic devices, or foregoing the use of devices like on a long plane ride.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Yes, very cringey slang for going without protection. Originally from pregnancy or STDs, but now also from boredom. In my case, without the protection of a mask or leaving my wallet and phone at home. I even drove and parked in a local public garage, so would be traceable in several different ways

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 13 hours ago
[–] gaael@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You get a burner for the protest and give your phone to a friend or family member for the day so that it still pings towers at the usual places.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago

Or at home. It’s not unusual for me to spend several hours at home on a Saturday.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 27 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Here is the simple trick: leave your phone at home. Get a burner.

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Side note, leave the burner in a Faraday bag when it's going to be near your daily driver.

[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Faraday bags do not work with modern phones anymore, specifically 5G

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 2 hours ago

Faraday bags work, period, if they are made and used properly. If there's no RF getting in or out, there's no GPS and no checking in with the towers. Inertial navigation doesn't work worth a damn after a little while, and it won't work at all when powered down. Obviously? black tape over the camera lenses unless you're ready to share what they're seeing, and the microphones can listen very well too, it is a phone after all, so bear that in mind.

[–] Rumo161@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

Burner means non Smartphone with a fresh anonymous sim. Its not easy to get but important enough to "jump the hoops"

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

people on the internet love to talk about all these great security smart things that they will definitely never do.

leave valuables at home, wear unremarkable clothes, and write your lawyers number on your arm with a sharpie.

personally i bring my phone and a leica. ive been to jail for protesting before and in my current situation i just don't care.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Leica digital or chemical film?

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 53 minutes ago

m10p with a 28mm and a flash

[–] Rumo161@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Its important because you endanger not just yourself but anyone who is possibly linked through your activities. Your actions are your own responsibility. If you are able to protect others in this Situations you should. And i hope you only document voilation oft power with your leika and not others protesting.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 49 minutes ago

i don't know what you just said but the whole point of a protest is to disrupt in order to be seen.

I went to jail for trespassing. same as everyone else. its bullshit.

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