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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 6 points 15 hours ago

Texture.

Thread over.

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 19 hours ago

tomato is nice ~

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Most tomatoes at restaurants are legitimately awful, like watery and tasteless. Same for most at grocery stores. They’re not worth putting on, especially if someone dislikes the texture.

Modern commercial varieties have largely been selected for durability, shelf life, and appealing looks, at the expense of flavor and texture. The focus has been on maximizing how well they work in a modern supply chain, not how good they are for the end consumer. Some work has been done to develop varieties that work in a supply chain while also still tasting good, but these are heavily patented and controlled, generally sold as a premium product and not something that most restaurants will spend the extra money on.

A good verity can only do so much though, as although tomatoes are notionally Climacteric (Continue to ripen after being removed from the plant), ripening them off of the plant will create a different result. The sugar content will increase and the color will change to red, but, tartness and more complex compounds that contribute to flavor will not. This is largely due to these compounds not being the result of the ripening process but rather the result of the plant’s immune responses. The tomato will not get these if it is removed from the plant for ripening.

Even if ripened on the plant, the tomato will still be lacking if the plant is being grown in a heavily controlled and sterile environment, such as in a industrial hydroponic greenhouse or in an industrial farm field. Much of the flavor of the tomato is a result of the plant responding to stresses from being attacked by pests and diseases. What we perceive as “yummy tomato flavor” in a home grown heirloom tomato is actually defensive compounds produced by the plant.

This could be addressed by intentionally introducing some stresses as part of the growing process, but no major company is currently doing this. Many are still ripening them off the vine or using bad varieties.

TLDR: commercial tomatoes suck because of how they are produced and you should grow some in a garden or buy some from a local farmer if you want them to be worth your time.

[–] wieson@feddit.org 5 points 23 hours ago

yesyesyesyes I've been droning on about this for years. I love tomatoes but I hate tomatoes from the store. If someone asks me: "do you not like tomatoes?" I have to tell them the whole shabang.

Recently I even did kinda an asshole move by asking in a restaurant which variety of tomato was in the dish. It turnt out to be a miniscule cherry tomato for garnish, so not even worth the effort.

[–] tobis@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I like tomatoes, but I can’t remember the last time I had a good one.

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 16 hours ago

Strongly recommend getting a tomato plant, even if it’s just in a pot inside, also some mason jars for when you inevitably have a bunch of tomatoes and not enough uses for them.

[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I'm so tired of explaining why I do not want to eat that disgusting squishy, drippy blushing slut of a vegetable. And no, I do not care that its a berry, fruit or an arthropod or whatever.

Picky eaters are oppressed minority. There I said it.

[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago

I disagree with you, but that comment was so beautifully written i simply had to upvote.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More of a McCum person then I take it?

[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is it organically sourced?

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

Still warm or your money back 👍

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 0 points 14 hours ago

Picky eaters deserve to be oppressed and I'm tired of pretending they are not.

[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 day ago

Mmm yes. A slice of a cold wet slimy produce on my hot fatty burger. Oooh yes please. I absolutely love the contrast of cold and hot; fat and slime.

If there’s anything that makes dining great, it’s opposites. And if there’s anyone with the skills to make opposites a gastronomical experience, it’s a line cook flipping burgers.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd follow you into battle.

[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago

We ride at dawn, bring a canister of something flammable and a maid outfit

[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 0 points 16 hours ago

disgusting squishy, drippy blushing slut of a vegetable

Tomatoes are actually a fruit, not a vegetable.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

I like tomatoes, but I am a picky eater about a lot of other things! Picky eaters unite.

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Modern commercial tomatoes suck and your pickiness is entirely justified and reasonable. There is no point to putting a shitty tomato on a burger if the texture is off putting to you.

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

after i gave up removing tomatoes from my burgers, (i never liked tomatoes in general, but i got lazy one time) i discovered it actually tastes pretty good... and then i took another bite out of the burger and the entire tomato just slipped out so i had to eat the entire thing, and yeah i dont like it

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've usually not had that issue with tomatoes, but lettuce? Lettuce is a bastard green.

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago

thankfully the place i've been getting burgers cuts the lettuce into smaller pieces, so it's not a problem

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah I'll eat any type of tomato but raw ones. Dried? Love it. Sauce? Delightful. Put in a pan for 10 mins and topped with feta cheese? Taste great. But raw? Fucking disgusting. Put it in a burger? Ruins the whole thing especially if the tomato water gets into the bread. Stop ruining perfectly good food by adding raw tomatoes.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

It seems you dislike the texture rather than the taste?

Me who loves tomatoes but has GERD which flares following tomatoes so can’t eat them 😢

[–] ManlickerM2001@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I fucking hate picky eaters

[–] chillhelm@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

That's a lot of emotion there. Do you want to talk about it?

[–] Caitlyynn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Me me me me

[–] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I feel attacked. But seen